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I've been trying to tell my Black friends this. Showed them that there is still the Libertarian party and Green party that tends to be moderate in it's beliefs.
I'm still in favor of an all-party system. If this occurred, maybe blacks COULD put our energy into an alternate party or begin our own. That said, I don't see an all party system anytime soon, so if black people are NOT going to do this, we should try to be of more influence in the two main parties.
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Originally Posted by warhorse78
The fact that Epstein died under suspicious circumstances, and neither the leaders or the D or R are talking about it should answer your question. Both are either complicit in the sex trafficking epidemic, or are turning a blind eye to it because they just don't want to rock that boat.
When it comes to sex trafficking (in particular black women and girls), I don't expect non-black leaders of either party to be as concerned about this as black people (leaders or not) SHOULD be. Perhaps leaders don't want to rock the boat, perhaps they are complicit, perhaps SOME are actually taking part in it. Until it comes out, we have no idea. That being said, the number of missing black women and girls should be an URGENT matter at this point.
In addition, there are other issues to consider. Job discrimination is something Blacks have to deal with more than anyone else. Police brutality is something Blacks still deal with more than anyone else. Bloomberg mentioned that Blacks and Hispanics should be targeted MORE in terms of stop and frisk. Bloomberg is a candidate I will not support. Some states, the governors try voter suppression tactics. Brian Kemp of Georgia is one example.
I lived in NYC. I lived in an neighborhood where blacks made up the minority and committed 3/4 of all violent crimes and nearly 2/3 of all non violent crime. The neighborhood was and still is mostly Hispanic. I see the need for stop and frisk, yet I disagree with the tactic.
2020 is not going to be an easy year for the rank and file democrat black voter. My best bet for the African American is to consult the pastor and see where his vote will go. Ok that was a joke. My best bet is to vote for what you feel is right. Historically blacks are not fond of socialism and therefore not fond of Bernie Sanders, Mayor Pete said some offensive stuff in regards to black Americans, however actions speaker louder than words. Biden who was Vice President of Obama and wants to hold on to Obama legacy. Even though Obama was married to an ADOS woman of color. He did not do much for ADOS or FBA negro community. Even Tavis Smiley said Obama administration set black folks back during his 8 years as president. Than you guys have Donald Trump and that's another issue. The Negro vote supposed to be most important vote, and the vote that decides Democracy. Yet Hispanic voting bloc is far larger. We will see in November. My vote is on Bernie and I'm and Independent.
Truth be told, the lines of D and R have been blurring for quite some time and more people are starting to get away from simply voting blindly by political party. I's tend to vote D or R and it's based on the issue rather than the party. Even D's and R's will sometimes deviate and vote for the opposite party depending on the issue at hand.
Party registration doesn't affect voting in the general election. You can go into the general election and vote for whoever you want, regardless how you're registered.
I'm talking about the primary election where the Democrats decide who their candidate will be, the Republicans decide who their candidate will be, the Greens decide who their candidate will be, the Communists (yes, they have a party in the US) decide who their candidate will be, et cetera.
IMO, people who are not Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Communists, et cetera, should not be voting in other people's primaries.
A bunch of Democrats should not gang rush to the Republican primary and slant their vote for the least electable candidate, for instance.
I guess the other alternative would be for Independents and others to register as D or R every four years to vote in the primaries and then once the presidential election is done, return to the Independent party or whatever party they typically associate with.
I guess the other alternative would be for Independents and others to register as D or R every four years to vote in the primaries and then once the presidential election is done, return to the Independent party or whatever party they typically associate with.
If they're going to vote in the primaries, then they're not truly Independents.
Again, the primaries should be for those particular like-minded people to select their own candidates. Independent candidates should run without any party support--which is what "Independent" means.
Most black people just cannot relate to the typical white conservative despite their shared "culturally conservative" values. This slowly changes as more black people move into higher income brackets and have shared economic interests with white conservatives.
But the typical black working class guy who lives in an all black neighborhood doesn't really feel like he has all that much in common with the upper middle class suburban white person regardless of political party.
Nowadays upper middle class white people are probably Democrats.
That doesn't do anything to close the gulf between them and the working class black guy. If anything it's weirder that they are in the same party
Too much is being made of supposed black cultural conservativism. Just because blacks are more likely to go to church has nothing to do with their politics. Not everybody is like white evangelicals that wed religion to conservative and reactionary social policies.
Historically blacks are not fond of socialism and therefore not fond of Bernie Sanders,
That's a gross generalization. In the US there were some quite prominent socialists that were black. Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Paul Robeson, etc. Some African-Americans even moved to the Soviet Union in the 1920's and 30's, and Paul Robeson sent his son to college in Moscow.
They were already getting the short end of the stick, being labelled a "socialist" wasn't exactly going to scare them into political orthodoxy.
I lived in NYC. I lived in an neighborhood where blacks made up the minority and committed 3/4 of all violent crimes and nearly 2/3 of all non violent crime. The neighborhood was and still is mostly Hispanic. I see the need for stop and frisk, yet I disagree with the tactic.
2020 is not going to be an easy year for the rank and file democrat black voter. My best bet for the African American is to consult the pastor and see where his vote will go. Ok that was a joke. My best bet is to vote for what you feel is right. Historically blacks are not fond of socialism and therefore not fond of Bernie Sanders, Mayor Pete said some offensive stuff in regards to black Americans, however actions speaker louder than words. Biden who was Vice President of Obama and wants to hold on to Obama legacy. Even though Obama was married to an ADOS woman of color. He did not do much for ADOS or FBA negro community. Even Tavis Smiley said Obama administration set black folks back during his 8 years as president. Than you guys have Donald Trump and that's another issue. The Negro vote supposed to be most important vote, and the vote that decides Democracy. Yet Hispanic voting bloc is far larger. We will see in November. My vote is on Bernie and I'm and Independent.
NYC? A lot of those blacks are probably Hispanic or half. The police up north have a tendency to mark black for people who are Hispanic and of African descent. I’ve seen it.
It can be argued that for many years black Americans have endeavored to be the best possible American citizens, and up until recently "socialist" has been marked as unAmerican. That connection is the only reason.
But that doesn't mean that black Americans have actually been opposed to the tenets of socialism, particularly Democratic Socialism. There have always been honored black Americans who have been socialists, and even Communist--such as Dr Angela Davis.
"Socialism" has never been a boogeyman that scared black Americans. And socialism is no longer a boogeyman to young Americans, either.
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