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As pointed out earlier they are two different figures. 10-20% of those who were infected with Spanish Flu (H1N1) died, which amounted to 2-3% of the population. Corona kills 3.4% of those infected. Of course if it gets out of control, then 3.4% will amount to millions.
Surprisingly Mike Pence just mandated private insurance companies carry the cost of testing for it, which will give them a legit reason to hike insurance premiums for everyone
100 million sick, and 4 million dead Americans is not a big deal......
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Originally Posted by TwoByFour
Not correct. Corona kills 3-4% of the confirmed cases. We don't know what fraction of people who get Corona end up getting tested but the suspicion is that it is a small fraction.
If you notice, most of the spread of the virus has been from tourism. Russia in the winter is not exactly a big tourist draw.
India and Pakistan also have a very low number - less than 10 cases total. India has more tourism so I expect that number will rise soon. Once it does, look out. India is crowded and does not have the government control or infrastructure to deal with it. And it has almost a billion people.
Mike Pence just mandated private insurance companies to carry the cost of testing for the virus, which gives them a legit excuse to hike premiums for everyone.
Should we do the same with the 12,000 that died in 2009 from our failure to react to and contain the H1N1 virus? Most of them, younger, otherwise healthy people?
Of course it is truth. Truth is also that Trump and the GOP has been working hard to do away with health insurance for millions - and they have already taken MILLIONS off the rolls.
They also, as we speak, are trying to do away with pre-existing condition clauses.
Lots more that we don't see. Tip of the Iceberg.
But they make no bones about it. The is a feature according to them....it allows more money to go to the top. That's the whole Religion of the Right.
I wonder why people even talk about this. It's been obvious since "let em die" was shouted out by the GOP faithful.
Not correct. Corona kills 3-4% of the confirmed cases. We don't know what fraction of people who get Corona end up getting tested but the suspicion is that it is a small fraction.
China has/had around 80,000 infected. There population is what, 1.3 billion? That works out to .006% of the population infected, with far fewer dead (their death toll is what, 2500 or so?). Just 11 years ago we had 59 million infected with H1N1 and 12,000 deaths, out of a population 1/4 the size of China. This is something to be concerned about-but put it in perspective. It's far less of an issue (at the moment at least) than things we've been through in the recent past. But of course in 2009, no one was trying to politicize the pandemic.
Medicaid is perhaps the prime target of the Trump healthcare wrecking crew. The Trump administration wants to hobble Medicaid by converting it to a block-grant program. The coronavirus shows exactly why that idea would be sheer folly.
Medicaid is the nation’s largest public healthcare program, with more than 71 million enrollees as of the end of 2019. Because the federal government covers at least 50% and as much as 90% of states’ expenditures for those enrollees, it’s ideal for delivering the kind of services that will be urgently needed as COVID-19 spreads across the country.
It’s also uniquely flexible. States are responsible for enrollments and treatments, and hand the bills over to the feds for the appropriate reimbursement. That allows Medicaid funding to rise or fall with need, responding to unforeseen shocks.
In the past, such shocks have included storms like Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico, new and expensive technologies like hepatitis C cures or disease outbreaks like Zika — or COVID-19.
Block grants don’t respond to shocks. Under an administration proposal made official on Jan. 30, states would receive a lump sum for Medicaid based on their past experience. If their spending came in below the lump sum, they could pocket the difference for spending on other health programs; if it exceeded the block grant, they’d be on the hook for the excess, 100%.
The danger here is obvious. COVID-19 is almost certain to drive up screening and treatment costs in almost every state. To contain its spread, many residents will have to be tested. Some will have to be quarantined in hospital wards, served by medical professionals with specialized equipment.
Under the best circumstances, the public health infrastructure of even affluent states will be tested; in poor states, it will face utter collapse. If they’re reliant on Medicaid to help cover the cost, they’ll be sunk.
China has/had around 80,000 infected. There population is what, 1.3 billion? That works out to .006% of the population infected, with far fewer dead (their death toll is what, 2500 or so?). Just 11 years ago we had 59 million infected with H1N1 and 12,000 deaths, out of a population 1/4 the size of China. This is something to be concerned about-but put it in perspective. It's far less of an issue (at the moment at least) than things we've been through in the recent past. But of course in 2009, no one was trying to politicize the pandemic.
China has 80,000 confirmed cases. We don't know how many people have actually been infected but the presumption is it is much higher.
But you are right - the death rate is extremely small in Hubei province, the hardest hit. The population of Hubei is 59 million people and only 2700 deaths. If we scale that to the US we would have 13,000 deaths which is way less than the seasonal flu current total of 18,000.
China has 80,000 confirmed cases. We don't know how many people have actually been infected but the presumption is it is much higher.
But you are right - the death rate is extremely small in Hubei province, the hardest hit. The population of Hubei is 59 million people and only 2700 deaths. If we scale that to the US we would have 13,000 deaths which is way less than the seasonal flu current total of 18,000.
We can't scale it to the US because we don't have equivalent responses by health authorities. The US is not taking counter measures at all, not even doing much testing. China locked down those millions in their homes and apartments while in the US, sick people have been walking around in their communities and traveling far and wide for weeks. The day late, dollar short botched response in the US will result in an entirely different pattern of cases and outcomes. We don't yet know what that will be, but Italy is probably a better model than China.
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