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Old 03-20-2020, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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From the CONSERVATIVE National Review.

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As the spread of the new and still somewhat mysterious virus ramps up in Italy and Iran, and a few more cases emerge in the United States, maybe that’s the Trump we’ve needed. But we’re getting Trump the market whisperer. We’re getting a Trump who is obviously bothered by the drop in the Dow Jones. We’re getting a Trump who plans to campaign on the conventional measures of success favored by his predecessors. We’re getting a Trump who is downplaying the seriousness of this disease, who is probably acting too late, and who is making promises he can’t keep.

The pattern was established very early in his press conference when he vowed that the United States government was “totally prepared” and cited an already outdated study of pandemic readiness putting the United States as, Trump called it, the “best prepared people in the world.”

At that briefing, Trump seemed to make the same mistake the media did, in comparing the total deaths related to the flu to the comparably small numbers of those infected by the coronavirus from Wuhan. But this is silly. What we don’t want is for the Wuhan virus to spread as widely as the flu, or as persistently, because it is 20 times deadlier than the flu, and it may be easier to communicate. And because our medical system doesn’t have as much experience in dealing with its peculiar attack on human respiratory systems.

“It’s going to be under control,” Trump promised. Asked about the Centers for Disease Control’s prediction that an outbreak in the United States was a matter of “when, not if,” Trump contradicted the agency and said it wasn’t inevitable. “We’re going to be at five people, and we could be at just one or two people” in the near future, he said. He has no standing to say this and no reason to believe this is true.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...hreat/#slide-1

Sounds real "on top of it."
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Old 03-20-2020, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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We should hold Trump's feet to the fire because he has made mistakes that have already resulted in the death of Americans. The most egregious is that his administration turned down a perfectly good test for COVID-19 from the World Health Organization.
Source?
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Old 03-20-2020, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Actually Toyman, you are incorrect and have been lied to by the Trump spin doctors.

Trump & Flock have been trying to deflect by lying about the Obama administration’s response to the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, untruthfully declaring “ it was a full scale disaster.” While you and he can have that opinion, there is little to support such a negative view.

The stats oft repeated by Trump are deliberately misleading and it is disingenuous to compare those figures to the current outbreak of COVID-19, which has just begun. It’s also not true that the Obama administration did nothing or waited a long time to act on the H1N1 influenza pandemic.





https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/tr...pandemic-spin/

I just will never understand why Trump and his enablers and posters such as you, toyman, are far more concerned about Trump's perceived performance and making disingenuous comparisons to Obama, than seriously caring about any ongoing current issue. You know, the current public health crisis truly demands attention, rather than comparison and what aboutisms, toyman. Shame on you. You and Trump would be wise to take Harry Truman's advice:

"It's amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit."

And as for the complaint which is the topic of this thread, perhaps Trump should listen to another of Truman's sayings, "'If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"


Since it started circulating in the spring of 2009, H1N1 has infected about 100 million Americans, killing about 75,000 and sending 936,000 to the hospital, the CDC estimates.

https://www.statnews.com/2019/06/11/...0-years-later/


Asked if the president’s decision to golf Sunday at Andrews Air Force Base was part of a White House strategy to reassure people, Gibbs chuckled and replied: “I’m not sure I’d draw a direct conclusion.”


https://www.politico.com/story/2009/...th-team-021719
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Old 03-20-2020, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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From the CONSERVATIVE National Review.



https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...hreat/#slide-1

Sounds real "on top of it."
Who's not on top of it is your NY major, with hospital beds for only 53,000 people. You realize that's like 1/4 of a percent of the population compared to bed capacity when the national average is closer to 3%?
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Old 03-20-2020, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Did the stock market crash during H1N1? How about the SARS epidemic of 2003? It hit hard in China and it mirrors what their country did and what we are doing today. It was largely contained in Asia with some vectors infected in Toronto with 33 deaths. It made it to our soil as well. Only it didn't get a chance to spread here. H1N1? Child's play compared to this. You can not prevent deaths from flu. We should be able to prevent SARS pandemics like we did in 2003 and 2012 with MERS. It feels like a third world country now.

Reuters has an interesting article: Flu-economics. The next pandemic could trigger global recession. It was written in 2013.

Lessons learned from these epidemics, near pandemics? Common sense will dictate that it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when the next pandemic will cull the over population.

Disbanding the best of the best by closing the pandemic response office may have been the biggest blunder of his administration. There is a stark difference between the way the 2003 SARS CoV outbreak was handled and the disaster we have today.

This is why we can't have nice things.

(I don't remember which one of you I stole this from long long ago, but kudos. I still laugh about it.)

The fawning press not reporting Obama's omissions that cost 75,000 Americans their lives doesn't mean Obama handled the outbreak effectively.

It just indicates that the press was uninterested in anything that didn't make Obama look good.


75,000 H1N1 deaths = GOOD!

217 Corona virus deaths = BAD!
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Old 03-20-2020, 05:38 PM
 
Location: NY
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First off, that is a Winston Churchill quote which is important to note because it transcends party, country or era.

Second, of course they're going to politicize this. I said this yesterday in a post where I pointed out that some pols (Omar saying something positive about Trump) have to play nice because their district is shaky and people mostly don't want to see infighting....so the political attacks have to come from proxy loyalists like journalists and PAC's as well as the pols that are completely safe in their districts or not seek re-election etc.

This is Politics 101. I don't like it but it's completely party neutral imo. This would be occurring no matter whom was president.
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This explains the Mayor of New York Bill DeBlasio bashing the President every chance he gets.
He knows his political career is over soon and he wants to get a few digs in ................
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Old 03-20-2020, 05:41 PM
 
Location: USA
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/19...ing-wuhan-flu/

"Never let a crisis go to waste."- Rahm Emmanuel, former Chicago Mayor and Obama Chief of Staff.
How’d that work in 2008-09? Did we really get a Soviet / Bolshevik revolution, with the working masses rising up against their capitalist oppressors? Or did we get massive bailouts that made big banking corporations even bigger and more powerful?
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