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Old 03-28-2020, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I assume it helps that Arizona is not as densely populated as the NE. Urban sprawl as well as driving instead of walking, also help compared with Europe.
Well we hope so. I think that density is the main driver in the spread. High rise apts with elevators and common areas, limited parks, crowded streets and shops, public transport. It is quite different. Most people live in detached homes, and apartments here are usually two or three floors with open stairwells and no elevators. We get around in autos mostly. We have a Walmart Supercenter every 5 miles or so and shops are empty compared to Europe and the comparison with China is simply not possible. We also have almost constant sunny days which maybe will help with UV killing virus on surfaces. Our temps are already above what most of the northern hemisphere calls summer and the solar index is already quite high. All good things (maybe),but it might give us a false hope of security.

 
Old 03-28-2020, 03:25 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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My uncle was hospitalized for 2 weeks with Covid19. He was released this week but he still has a cough and cannot eat or won't (not sure) since everything seems either tasteless or extremely salty.

The head of care congratulated him personally up on his release since they feared the worst. He was the first severe case in this hospital. He is 55 with no pre existing conditions.
Good for your uncle

On the topic of smell/taste:
https://www.jpost.com/International/...fection-621970
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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President Donald Trump said that he's considering imposing a quarantine of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut -- where cases of coronavirus continue to rise.

Even if the president has the power to do this, would it be a good idea? If trump does have the power to enforce a quarantine, does it do any good once it has been announced ahead of time?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/polit...rus/index.html
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:44 PM
 
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President Donald Trump said that he's considering imposing a quarantine of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut -- where cases of coronavirus continue to rise.

Even if the president has the power to do this, would it be a good idea? If trump does have the power to enforce a quarantine, does it do any good once it has been announced ahead of time?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/polit...rus/index.html
One can only imagine a 20 minute boat ride from LI to RI or slightly longer to parts of MA.

LE and truckers will start getting paid to smuggle people...and all the like.

The whole approach is piecemeal and that is what they are sticking with.

It "works" in the sense that anything slows it down, but at the same time we will have vastly more cases and damage than places that took it seriously on a whole - like WA State or China.

What might work is to shut most of the flights down...and then shut down most everywhere where it is spreading.

But, alas, the cat is out of the bag and is ripping at us with claws.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Ever find yourself wishing you were wrong??
  • I predicted that we'd hit 1 million confirmed cases before the end of the month back when there were barely more than 100K confirmed cases. In fact, I predicted that we'd clear 1 million easily.
  • We've gone from 531K at the end of the day yesterday to 660K cases right now. We're increasing by more than 100K per day, so three days should get us to 1 million, no problem.
  • I was one of those doom and gloom types way back in January. In fact, the thread that I opened for it back then was closed by the moderators, citing "Wrong forum."
  • The death rate among closed cases went from 5.64% to 18% right now. I'd love to know why that number has increased so much and I really really want to see it decreasing. It isn't.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:49 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/joelockhart/stat...66558726230022
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:52 PM
 
Location: near Fire Station 6
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Where cases have been reported:


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...gtype=Homepage
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:54 PM
 
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I hope Trump listens to Lindsey Graham on this....

Because if Trump defies medical experts and reopens everything too early, and a second wave of corona starts, every single death is on him.


https://twitter.com/costareports/sta...82968839577600
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:56 PM
 
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I hope Trump listens to Lindsey Graham on this....

Because if Trump defies medical experts and reopens everything too early, and a second wave of corona starts, every single death is on him.


https://twitter.com/costareports/sta...82968839577600
Trump has no authority to open businesses. The governors have the last word on that. Am I wrong?
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I hope Trump listens to Lindsey Graham on this....

Because if Trump defies medical experts and reopens everything too early, and a second wave of corona starts, every single death is on him.


https://twitter.com/costareports/sta...82968839577600
Trump already owns deaths because he knew about this in December.
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