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Old 03-28-2020, 08:08 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Why can’t people just stay inside their houses right now? Don’t go outside unless it is absolutely necessary.

People need to understand what it takes to stop spreading this virus. It is called sacrifice.

 
Old 03-28-2020, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Keyword = "Yet!"

When the many patients begin respiratory arresting from the Coronavirus, should Cuomo put in an order for some ventilators to be shipped then?
And here's hoping that the manufacturing the private sector is kickstarting at Trump's urging can keep up when things start getting crazier and crazier. As long as Trump's people and Cuomo's people communicate well, additional ventilators can be rapidly deployed to meet New York's needs in real time. The only limiting factor is whether enough hospital beds and ventilators can be produced quickly enough to meet the need.

Wuhan, Italy, Spain and France all got overwhelmed. New York is shaping up to be a lot more like those outbreaks. We'll see if we can keep up where nobody else has managed to do so.

This is one of those times when you'd have to be a complete a-hole to hope that Trump screws everything up. If he is unsuccessful, a whole lot of people will die waiting in line for a ventilator, hospital bed, etc. It's also a catch-22 if you don't like the guy. If he succeeds brilliantly, then what do you do? Go digging for ways nitpick and make it seem like he was a complete and total failure, when he really wasn't? This would undermine the credibility of anyone taking that tactic. The alternative? Trump gets re-elected with relative ease for demonstrating great leadership in the face of the worst crisis in living memory. It will be interesting to see how things play out in the aftermath -- which hopefully comes very soon.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 08:21 PM
 
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Again, take a look at

Coronaviruses are composed of RNA strands. RNA can mutate very quickly. Back when it was just in Wuhan, the S strain and the L strain of the virus emerged. It's just logical that more strains should emerge over time. The hope is that a less lethal strain eventually emerges, spreads and inoculates the population against deadlier versions like we saw with the West Africa outbreak of Ebola. I think Germany must have benefited from something along those lines. I'd be curious to see the data on it when it becomes available.
It took about 3 weeks for China to sequence and publish the RNA of the original strain.

Do you think that Germany, France, Italy, Switzerland and the like don't have that same ability???

Or the US where we've had cases for 7 weeks or more?

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...lem-for-humans

""In the literal sense of 'is it changing genetically,' the answer is absolutely yes," says Marc Lipsitch, an infectious disease epidemiologist at Harvard University. "What is in question is whether there's been any change that's important to the course of disease or the transmissibility or other things that we as humans care about."

So far, "there is no credible evidence of a change in the biology of the virus either for better or for worse," says Lipsitch.

Coronaviruses — like all viruses — change small parts of their genetic code all the time."

So I guess a lot...or at least quite a bit...of the questions you asked are answered for now. It changes but not a lot.

In fact, the same article says change is probably BAD because it means that vaccines and other things we create to fight it are less likely to work against a "massively mutated" strain.

For now I am going with the Science, but with what you or I think or guess....at this level of thing. Differences in mortality and such so far all seem to make some kind of sense based on various normal criteria.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 08:23 PM
 
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Quick math, 340,000,000 people in USA...320,000,000 people in the top 5 countries in Europe...Spain, UK, France, Italy, Germany. 272,000 cases in Top 5 European countries vs. 120,000 in USA. Tell me again why the USA is the epicenter? Not to mention half of those are in the NY,NJ metro.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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FYI, FEMA is not a "Vendor." Trump told her to try and buy the needed supplies directly (that would be through a medical supply vendor). When she tried, vendors told her they received orders not to sell to MI. I wonder who would provide such an order.
things move kind of fast around here. I'm sure it's been linked or an actual new thread made, but here's an even-handed though surface assessment of the Whitmer/Trump encounter.

https://lawandcrime.com/covid-19-pan...nd-stuff-here/
 
Old 03-28-2020, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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Illinois reports 1st death of an infant in the US. Chicago-born infant was under a year old.

Both the mayor and police chief of Illinois second largest city, Aurora, have tested positive for the virus. The suburb of Blue Island had to temporarily shut down its PD because one officer tested positive.

Illinois now has 3,491 cases and 47 deaths. In other Midwest states, neighboring Indiana is doing worse in terms of mortality rate, with about 31 deaths and 1,232 cases; Michigan has the most in cases and deaths by far with 4,658 cases and 111 deaths.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010 View Post
And here's hoping that the manufacturing the private sector is kickstarting at Trump's urging can keep up when things start getting crazier and crazier. As long as Trump's people and Cuomo's people communicate well, additional ventilators can be rapidly deployed to meet New York's needs in real time. The only limiting factor is whether enough hospital beds and ventilators can be produced quickly enough to meet the need.

Wuhan, Italy, Spain and France all got overwhelmed. New York is shaping up to be a lot more like those outbreaks. We'll see if we can keep up where nobody else has managed to do so.

This is one of those times when you'd have to be a complete a-hole to hope that Trump screws everything up. If he is unsuccessful, a whole lot of people will die waiting in line for a ventilator, hospital bed, etc. It's also a catch-22 if you don't like the guy. If he succeeds brilliantly, then what do you do? Go digging for ways nitpick and make it seem like he was a complete and total failure, when he really wasn't? This would undermine the credibility of anyone taking that tactic. The alternative? Trump gets re-elected with relative ease for demonstrating great leadership in the face of the worst crisis in living memory. It will be interesting to see how things play out in the aftermath -- which hopefully comes very soon.
Trump already failed. Over 2000 deaths now. Trump should have been doing what he is doing now at least two months ago. Didn't have to be a fortune teller to know what was coming, only look at what was happening in China and Italy. Now, all we can do is try to minimize deaths.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Why can’t people just stay inside their houses right now? Don’t go outside unless it is absolutely necessary.

People need to understand what it takes to stop spreading this virus. It is called sacrifice.
Until we are in shelter in place, there is no way to stop people from being out to be quite honest. Americans on a whole are individualists not collectivists. Just look at this forum when it comes to anything that means collectivist. They call it Marxist.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A3j...&feature=share


It’s sad that someone like Trevor Noah “a comedian” is giving up more reliable information on how to stay safe then anyone else is.
Fauci went on Phillip DeFranco as well. I know DeFranco is surprisingly big but I didn't expect him to land Anthony Fauci. I honestly think Fauci is trying to get the word out there and to remove myths and misconceptions about the virus.

https://youtu.be/r3miPW-wkfk
 
Old 03-28-2020, 08:48 PM
 
Location: FL
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I'm wondering if MSNBC swapped the video because I played it, and it had someone else reading quotes that they claim Trump said, but it didn't have Trump speaking at all.
That is really weird.
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