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I think its pretty crazy how white liberals in California, which never even had slaves feel such guilty over the past, thing that happened hundreds of years ago. I'm from Louisiana and I don't know a single white person who has expressed this kind of guilt over slavery. I even have friends whose ancestors did own slaves but even they say it was just part of history. They're not proud of it, not ashamed of it, their ancestors followed the laws and standards of THEIR TIME, the past is the past. I'm not white but I don't disagree with this. A white person actually shouldn't have to be ashamed of having slave owning ancestors unless their ancestors treated their slaves poorly even by the standards of the 1800s
Its good that slavery and Jim Crow are over, if only blacks could keep themselves from being constantly riled up by white liberals from out of state for political purposes into obsessing about the past. Even if a white person's direct ancestors owned slaves, they themselves are not responsible. Do OJ Simpson's kids owe anything to the kids of his victims?
As for reparations, the way I see it, the purpose of reparations is to undo the effects of the wrong, to make it as if the wrong never occurred. The liberals would have you believe that if it wasn't for slavery, every slave descendant would be $1.2 million richer than they are now, even when white cisgender heterosexual males who have never suffered any discrimination of any kind usually don't have $1.2 million. If it wasn't for slavery, they wouldn't even be here.
So here is MY proposal for reparations to best undo the effects of slavery.
- Every black person will be offered a free, government-chartered flight back to the African destination of their choice, preferably the African country their ancestors were taken from
- They will be allowed to liquidate their assets in the US tax free and take back to Africa with them
- In return they will renounce their U.S. citizenship and not be allowed to return to the US again....the US will negotiate for African citizenship on their behalf
They will be living like kings and queens in Africa, whereas if their ancestors never left Africa, they would still be living in thatched huts or tin shacks and digging a hole in the ground for a toilet. So even in this situation they would have benefited from being in America.
So the past is the past. We all move on. A Southerner can take pride in the history of Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and MLK all at once. This way we can really push for a color blind society and be on American people. While people shouldn't be proud of slavery but not ashamed of it either, but should be glad its over, and that Jim Crow is over. And people like Al Sharpton should think about whether they wish slavery never happened.
Did you even read my post. Nobody is advocating that Jim Crow be brought back. But to you, unless we agree to $1.2 million in reparation ,have CRT shoved down our throats and insist that Cleopatra, Jesus, and Santa Claus were all black, then we support Jim Crow?
In return they will renounce their U.S. citizenship and not be allowed to return to the US again....the US will negotiate for African citizenship on their behalf...
Lol, what the hell? African Americans who have been here for hundreds of years... are not Africans. They are Americans. And either way, why would they "not be allowed to return to the US again"? WTF?
I'm European American, and I don't think that either side of my family has been over here as long as some black families have. The first slaves arrived in Virginia in the year 1619- over 400 years ago.
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...and insist that Cleopatra, Jesus, and Santa Claus were all black...
Jesus and Santa Claus are fictional...
As for Cleopatra, I can't say that I'm the definitive expert on the exact tone of what someone's skin was, who lived 2,000 years ago. I mean, were you there?
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First of all, black folks that descended from slavery, have no place in Africa, as their African roots were violently ripped away. They started from scratch in this country. American black culture is the most American in the world. From Jazz, to funk, to hiphop, to soul, to RnB. This inspired many people around the world.
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Imagine if you were one of the people you so obviously disparage, for just a moment. For just a moment.
I was not the LEAST bit surprised that you described your location as "The Heart of Dixie" rather than, say, Jackson or Atlanta, or whatever area you are from. Telling.
Did you even read my post. Nobody is advocating that Jim Crow be brought back. But to you, unless we agree to $1.2 million in reparation ,have CRT shoved down our throats and insist that Cleopatra, Jesus, and Santa Claus were all black, then we support Jim Crow?
First of all, the money part, is not something I advocate for. If they destroyed a family business because of a racist act, then ok. That’s not every one in the neighborhood. CRT was not shoved down everyone’s throat. Where you pushed to take that course in college? Doubt it. Was history tweaked? Oh yes, I’m 70 - know enough to know - I remember 1964 .
And Jim Crow mentality has never left. Cleopatra was a boring history show, watched it today. She probably was dark skinned, but some say statues of her showed her short n fat and not a beauty queen. But let’s face it, we think “Cleopatra” we see Liz Taylor. It’s imbedded in our brains!! We would have never considered her to be some dark skinned middle easterner. The show did say they have no idea what race or skin color she had, as didn’t know where her mother was from nor is there a tomb. Jesus was a Jew of his time, probably dark skin middle easterner. Santa was an European, but he is make believe so can be any color. Why do you care ?
First of all, the money part, is not something I advocate for. If they destroyed a family business because of a racist act, then ok. That’s not every one in the neighborhood. CRT was not shoved down everyone’s throat. We’re you pushed to take that course in college? Doubt it. Was history tweaked. Oh yes, I’m 70 - know enough.
And Jim Crow mentality has never left. Cleopatra was a boring history show, watched it today. She probably was dark skinned, but some say statues of her showed her short n fat and not a beauty queen. But let’s face it, we think “Cleopatra” we see Liz Taylor. It’s imbedded in our brains!! We would have never considered her to be some dark skinned middle easterner. The show did say they have no idea what race or skin color she had, as didn’t know where her mother was from nor is there a tomb. Jesus was. Jew of his time, probably dark skin middle easterner. Santa was an European, but he is make believe so can be any color. What do you care ???
I doubt she looked anything like Elizabeth Taylor. And I doubt that she would have looked like she was from Sweden or something. She was probably some average southern European or northern African skin tone.
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