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Old 03-31-2020, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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It was pretty obvious Easter was not possibly going to be a time to open up the economy. There's no possible way we'll be able to open it up by April 30 either...so why is Trump even saying that he's considering it?

Even if they manage to "flatten the curve" by April 30...that's just going to mean we'll have to continue with the shutdown longer so that it continues to drop so that it has a long term effect.

We're looking at months of shutdown...pretty obviously...unless we engage in some Chinese-style, police state enforcement, which nobody seems to have had an interest in so far...so it looks like we're going for the longer, more free, route of flattening the curve.

Once the...whatever number of weeks it takes...period of "flattening the curve" is over and the rate of infection ceases exponentially rising, that'll mean more weeks spent with at least the same level of economic shutdown we've had so far. After the rate of infection actually drops for awhile...even then we'll still need to be quite careful...especially if we don't have enough testing options to determine where outbreaks are occurring quickly. Certain businesses may just be totally screwed for the next two years.

I give it two or three months, minimum, before we're able to open up any more businesses than are closed now, at all...and we'll probably need to be more strict about social distancing and making sure businesses in more areas remain closed before then too, because it doesn't seem like we've flattened the curve with our current precautions quite yet.

So...why has Trump been (hopefully) lying about opening up the economy so soon? He's been promising that since he first started talking about what to do about this virus. Is there some economic advantage that outweighs the confusion being caused to businesses and individuals or something I haven't thought of yet?

If we open up the economy too early, that'll cause a recession anyway from the panic. It'll also, probably, cause millions of deaths...and citizens will probably start demanding that we re-close down the economy once they see those deaths anyway.

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Old 03-31-2020, 10:11 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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People need hope. This continuous doom and gloom helps exactly no one.
 
Old 03-31-2020, 10:14 PM
 
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Doom and gloom generally isn't a big seller especially when dealing with an invisible and unknow enemy !!!
 
Old 03-31-2020, 10:17 PM
 
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Trump hasn't closed the economy. He doesn't have the power 'to open it'.

We all look forward to things getting back to normal.
 
Old 03-31-2020, 10:20 PM
 
Location: southern california
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A loaded question
I never said he was lying when he made optimistic predictions
You did
 
Old 03-31-2020, 10:26 PM
 
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IMO The economy will reopen once we get past the peak, but in segments, and regions, no doubt.

No one has seen this virus have the same per capita affect outside of NYC as in NYC.

Social distancing is a way of life in less densely packed regions. That could help cut deaths down a ton. We must be cautious not to have our pov skewed by the "perfect storm" NYC represents for this virus.
 
Old 03-31-2020, 10:28 PM
 
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Economy is open. It isn't doing well but it is open.

People are working, not enough people, people are spending, saving, investing.
It's just not a good economy.

It never closed.

It won't be 'opened'.
 
Old 03-31-2020, 10:29 PM
 
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I would say he didn't want to dishearten the nation, but that would require caring about us, and I honestly don't believe Trump cares about anyone in the world except himself. He is not only utterly devoid of empathy, he doesn't even know how to fake it.

It's wishful thinking. It's what he wants to be true. Reality seems to be sinking in, though.
 
Old 03-31-2020, 10:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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A loaded question
I never said he was lying when he made optimistic predictions
You did
You're talking to a liberal hysteric there. Their whole reason for existence is to trash President Trump (even during a nationwide crisis), lie about him, and generally try to fool people into not voting for him. So they'll accuse him of "lying" even when they know all he actually said was "It would nice if we could do X, I'd really like that".

You have to get used to liberals. They have all the credibility of a dog baying at the moon.
 
Old 03-31-2020, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The economy is open. It was never shut down. So I don't know what you are talking about OP. The economy is just in very bad shape because people are worried about the future, and don't want to make any unnecessary big purchases until there is more clarity. Some people simply don't have money to spend.

We will have to wait till those checks arrive before everyone will have a little money to spend. A lot of that money will be going towards basic purchases and reoccurring bills like health, auto and home owners insurance, along with utility bills and other ordinary expenses. These checks will not enable most people to run out and go on shopping sprees, although some certainly will use it in this manner.
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