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I hope not. We haven’t even begun to control costs first. That’s a bipartisan fail. Insurance profits are a part, but how about billing costs for practices? Why are cash prices SO much lower? Prescriptions/drugs? Malpractice insurance? I’m sure I’m scratching the surface, but while I’m open to national healthcare, don’t even start until you tackle those and other things. Making it single payer isn’t the instant solve some people think it is.
I hope not. We haven’t even begun to control costs first. That’s a bipartisan fail. Insurance profits are a part, but how about billing costs for practices? Why are cash prices SO much lower? Prescriptions/drugs? Malpractice insurance? I’m sure I’m scratching the surface, but while I’m open to national healthcare, don’t even start until you tackle those and other things. Making it single payer isn’t the instant solve some people think it is.
If the unemployment rate reaches 25%, a majority of the electorate will be without health insurance, many of whom previously had it, during a public health crisis. That will be the end of the private health care system.
For decades the advocates of the private health care system argued it would control costs better than a public health care system. The US spends a larger portion of its GDP on health care than any other country. The private health care system has failed to control costs.
For decades the advocates of the private health care system argued it would deliver higher quality care than a public health care system. The US has below average health outcomes for a developed country. The private health care system has failed to deliver higher quality care.
The advocates of the private health care system have been wrong on the facts for decades, and now they are wrong on the politics. There are thousands of delivery drivers bringing us life-sustaining supplies, and few of them have health insurance. They are risking their health for the sake of others, and they have no health insurance. This is morally wrong. And very politically visible.
The only reason to support a private health care system is to increase the bargaining power of employers over workers. That has nothing to do with the provision of health care or the cost of such, and is morally abhorrent.
Health care has always been rationed in this country, by the ability to pay and the willingness to vote. Soon it will be rationed in a different way, and if the pattern in countries with public health systems is an indication, that new way will make more sense economically and medically.
Being a conservative means being amenable to facts and argument. The argument for a private health care system has been lost.
If you are not amenable to facts and argument, and unyieldingly cling to your positions and interests despite all the evidence against those, you are a reactionary, not a conservative. And America is no place for reactionaries.
So ... what’s your best guess?
It’s clear the Normal US Citizen doesn’t want the Federal Government Elite Politicians to Control our Healthcare and where we can leave our homes or not.
Think this was a deliberate plan by the Leftists to take over our lives and Health?
Maybe you are correct, I think it will fail.
What say the rest of you? Will the Leftists win this one?
Billing costs for practices in part are so high because medical billing is a disastrous cluster****. Going to UHC would eliminate most of those problems and billing costs for practices would fall substantially. With UHC, you only have one billing standard, and you know the government is going to pay.
BTW, I agree with the OP that this is the end of the line but for another reason.
Medical capacity has been cut in NYC since the early 2000s largely to control costs, which private entities have to do. If the government was running it, the number of doctors, hospital beds, etc, that are needed could be determined by scientists who advise public policy makers.
So ... what’s your best guess?
It’s clear the Normal US Citizen doesn’t want the Federal Government Elite Politicians to Control our Healthcare and where we can leave our homes or not.
Think this was a deliberate plan by the Leftists to take over our lives and Health?
Maybe you are correct, I think it will fail.
What say the rest of you? Will the Leftists win this one?
I think the response to the pandemic is medically justified. If any one actor is culpable for it, it is the communist party of China.
I think a majority of people agree with the public provision of health care. I also think the public provision of health care will be better for a majority of people than the current system.
In other words, I don't think the private health care system is worth conserving, and hasn't been for decades. It only made it this far because of the vagaries of politics.
BTW, I agree with the OP that this is the end of the line but for another reason.
Medical capacity has been cut in NYC since the early 2000s largely to control costs, which private entities have to do. If the government was running it, the number of doctors, hospital beds, etc, that are needed could be determined by scientists who advise public policy makers.
System wide UHC controls costs better. The situation you are describing is because NYC has a higher population of low income people, compared to say a wealthy community with more private practices.
I think the response to the pandemic is medically justified. If any one actor is culpable for it, it is the communist party of China.
I think a majority of people agree with the public provision of health care. I also think the public provision of health care will be better for a majority of people than the current system.
In other words, I don't think the private health care system is worth conserving, and hasn't been for decades. It only made it this far because of the vagaries of politics.
You are presenting a stark choice as if it is your way or the highway.
We do need universal health care but if you look around the world there are about 60 countries that have guaranteed universal health care for their citizens, only a handful use a single-payer system, meaning there are plenty of methods besides single-payer.
Countries like Japan, Germany, South Korea, and Switzerland have very good universal healthcare models that are adaptable to the U.S. system, as they rely on a private-public hybrid insurance framework that the U.S. already uses.
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