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Old 04-13-2020, 07:54 PM
 
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That would be a false statement, not to mention the number of inherent problems in your very faulty logic.

Test results are independent of the rate of infection.

In epidemiology, the correct methodology for determining the rate of infection is to expose a group of test subjects to an airborne contaminant and then test for antibodies/antigens.

Had you bothered to read these studies...

Bradburne AF, Bynoe ML, Tyrrell DA. Effects of a “new” human respiratory virus in volunteers. Br Med J. 1967;3:767–769.

Callow KA, Parry HF, Sergeant M, Tyrrell DA. The time course of the immune response to experimental coronavirus infection of man. Epidemiol Infect. 1990;105:435–446.

...you would know that.

The spread of a viral or bacterial contaminant is not linear. They teach that at the Army War College, you know. Because it's not linear, the results of any testing can be skewed by a poor selection of subjects.

In other words, randomly testing people is not a valid way to test.

The proper methodology is interviewing people known to be positive to identify people with whom they've had contact, and then testing the people with whom they've had contact.

Right?

Because the virus is transmitted person-to-person and doesn't arrive in your town courtesy of a FROG or SCUD-C warhead launched from somewhere outside of town or from an aerosol canister dropped on your town by a Backfire bomber.

I could go on, but I'd hope you'd get the point by now.
Obviously you know that I misused the term "rate of infection." It's clear from the context of what I wrote that I was not referring to the risk of infection posed by exposure to the virus, but instead to the percentage of the population actually infected.

If you think that randomized testing doesn't yield reliable information about the percentage of the population infected, you'll have to take that up with the Icelandic authorities. The contact tracing you're describing is done to track down cases and control spread, and of course they do that, too.
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Old 04-13-2020, 08:39 PM
 
Location: pensacola,florida
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This is why I'd love to see testing for the COVID-19 antigen. I wonder how many people have been infected, fought it off with barely noticeable symptoms.
Yes thats the other part we need to know.The current testing is only showing those currently infected.I heard the Germans were going to do some testing like that done in Iceland combined with an antigen test.That would greatly help our ability to get some clear numbers on the actual mortality rate.
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Old 04-13-2020, 09:06 PM
 
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Since the Coronavirus is RACIST it should not be any surprise all those white devils survived

Just ask Biden....
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Old 04-13-2020, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Half of Iceland Tests Positive For Corona Virus -- CONFIRMED, IT'S A NOTHING BURGER


Iceland has tested one-tenth of its population for coronavirus at random and found HALF of people have the disease without realising - with only seven deaths in 1,600 cases

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Covid-19.html

This is HUGE!!!

What does this all mean?
It means that Covid-19 is one of the biggest NOTHING BURGERS in world history.
Most people in the western world are already infected and don't know it because they had no symptoms or only very mild symptoms.

Time to get on with life folks!

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Half of Iceland Tests Positive For Corona Virus -- CONFIRMED, IT'S A NOTHING BURGER
That's not what the article says. I think you should read it again.


Half of Iceland has not tested positive for coronavirus.
Half of Iceland hasn't even been tested, period.
Not even 90% of Iceland has been tested yet.


The article says ..... Iceland has tested one-tenth of its population for coronavirus at random and found that half of those who tested positive had the disease without realizing it.....


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Old 04-13-2020, 10:40 PM
 
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Iceland has tested one-tenth of its population for coronavirus at random and found HALF of people have the disease without realising - with only seven deaths in 1,600 cases

This is HUGE!!!

What does this all mean?
It means that:
it's obvious there's something else huge (and contemptful of the human race) going on here.

Keep tryin though.
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Old 04-14-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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The article says ..... Iceland has tested one-tenth of its population for coronavirus at random and found that half of those who tested positive had the disease without realizing it.....
You don't understand statistics. A random sampling, especially one as large as one-tenth of Iceland's population, can be used to make reliable statistical projections about the whole population.

So yes, the data does indicate that half of Iceland's population is positive.
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Old 04-14-2020, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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You don't understand statistics. A random sampling, especially one as large as one-tenth of Iceland's population, can be used to make reliable statistical projections about the whole population.

So yes, the data does indicate that half of Iceland's population is positive.
No, it does not. Of those tested, only 4% were positive. Of those positives, half had no symptoms. The data implies that only 4% of Iceland's overall population is currently infected with COVID-19; the other 96% are not. (36,413 people were tested; 1,600 were positive).
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Old 04-14-2020, 01:23 PM
 
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Agree with you Aredhel - Tritone, you are off base there.


Yes - the random thing can make a reliable statistical projection. It did. 4%. Not half.



But half of that 4% didn't have any symptoms.
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Old 04-17-2020, 02:42 PM
 
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What about the other half? Some of them get sick and some of them die.
Within the other half some will show varying degrees of severity ranging from mild to severe, but recoverable, to fatal. Overall still pretty mild looking as a whole.
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Old 04-17-2020, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Half of Iceland is infected, and they've only had 8 deaths.
Healthy lifestyle is probably one of the major factors.

People of southern european ethnicity seem to have a higher death rate for some reason, e.g. Italians & Spaniards.
Lots of Italians in NYC metro. Maybe there's a genetic factor?

But if we assume half of the western world is already infected and without any symptoms, which the study in Iceland suggests, then our reaction to this pandemic was definitely overblown in hindsight.
There is less air pollution in Iceland, so that works in favor of that country.
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