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Canada and Australia also have a skills based immigration policy rather than a family reunification based policy.
And that's the only immigration policy that should exist, one based on skills, or at the very least general intelligence. I have no problem with potential immigrants being tested for IQ.
Anything below 100 is unacceptable and should be deported.
I see that Americans often blame immigration and demographic change for the rise of the American left and the change into that direction. As a nordic I'm telling you this is an epic cope. The nordic countries are the most leftist on earth safe for actual literal communist states and historically they have been 90+% white. Nations like Iceland are still 90+% white. And they still have leftist feminist government crap.
Sorry but demographics has nothing to do with if a nation goes left or not. If this was so then nations like Iceland would be hard conservative but instead they are 10x more leftist than the USA is. Despite being 90+% white.
The leftward shift in the USA was always going to happen with or without immigration. Market economics are failing and the ideas of neo-liberalism don't appeal to people anymore. So they are moving away from the right. Nothing to do with demographics.
Nordic countries may have relatively high personal tax rates but otherwise they have very open economies and societies, often much more libertarian than the US.
In Sweden, for example, its version of Amtrak and its version of the Post Office are both private. And Sweden, as you see, hasn't forced its citizens on lockdown during the pandemic. Sweden even had a center-right government until recently.
Your position simply doesn't hold up.
White people in the US are heavily Republican.
People of color are heavily Democratic, and it's not just a name on a ballot: they generally favor bigger government on issue-by-issue surveys.
I actually see immigration as a fairly weak pull to the left. There’s a lot more going on here. To an extent you have a lopsidedly left capture of media, entertainment, and education. A lot of social attitudes have started to swing towards issues which align with the American left, such as gay rights, drug policy, and abortion (sort of). It’s chicken-or-egg whether the left capture I mentioned above started this. But I frankly don’t see immigration playing a very big role in a lot of those things. A great many immigrants who vote are actually quite socially conservative, they vote Democrat in fairly substantial numbers because it furthers their economic interests.
Leftists sometimes call the Scandinavian countries socialist in order to make socialism more appealing. They also deny those countries are socialist when comparing to, say, Venezuela.
Rightists sometimes call the Scandinavian countries socialist to call out various social ills in those countries. And they also call them market economies sometimes to explain their stability compared to, again, Venezuela.
Socialism vs capitalism is a spectrum along a number of dimensions. No country is purely one or the other, and never has been.
Incidentally, use of the word "true" as in Scotsman is useless.
Leftists and Rightists in the US misuse the word. Leftists and Rightists in Canada don't, and I doubt they do in Europe or Australia.
I agree that most countries fall somewhere on the spectrum between socialism and capitalism; this is why I've never understood the belief in political absolutes, which we often see on CD.
I disagree, though, on your humorous suggestion that there is no true Scotsman. My Scottish immigrant dad and uncles might want to have a word with you about that.
Canada and Australia, like the US, are very diverse countries full of immigrants. In fact, rates of foreign-born populations in both countries are significantly higher than the US's rate (not suggesting that's a good thing or bad thing; just stating fact). Yet both countries are advanced social democracies with strong social safety nets and robust economies.
Nativist/populist sentiment as well as deterioration in social "trust" is growing in both Canada and Australia, not to mention Western Europe.
Nativist/populist sentiment as well as deterioration in social "trust" is growing in both Canada and Australia, not to mention Western Europe.
Give it more time...
For some reason, some Americans like to overstate any movements to the political right in other advanced countries (which, in any case, are cyclical). The governing party in Canada, for instance, where I grew up, currently is the Liberal Party, which is to the left of the Conservative Party, obviously. The Conservative Party of Canada, though, is slightly to the left of the Democratic Party.
Conservatives in other advanced countries might be extremely conservative on some issues -- often fiscal, as my dad was. Yet they'd never consider giving up universal health care. Notice that even the most "right-wing," populist parties in Europe never propose abolishing UHC. I know for a fact they never would in Canada.
Corporate socialism was the final straw for me. I can't support either party now. They are going to prop up markets and bail out corporations that should be forced to file chapter 11... it's time for me to check out from the system. It no longer fits my needs.
Democrats are police state communists at heart who want to emulate China's social credit system, and republicans are corporate socialists that want to blow up and then bail out irresponsible debt bubbles. There's nobody rational left in politics at the federal level. We are going down a rabbit hole of entitlement that will lead to collapse.
After the C-19 Porkulus 3.5, we are very likely at >50% cost of goverment (local+state+fed) to GDP. Northern European countries average 55%. Syria and Venezuela 68%.
Our trend line is horrific. Look at the hisoric trend chart in the top right hand corner of this wiki page:
The spike was The New Deal, and that is where are are at after the C-19 3.5. If the trend continues, the USA will collapse under the weight of government costs.
And that's the only immigration policy that should exist, one based on skills, or at the very least general intelligence. I have no problem with potential immigrants being tested for IQ.
Anything below 100 is unacceptable and should be deported.
I actually don’t disagree with your basic premise, that it’s OK to be choosy about who to let in, and that it’s our prerogative to exclude people from our nation who are unfit in some way. But IQ is kind of a crappy test, not something I’d rely on as a real measure of intelligence.
I see that Americans often blame immigration and demographic change for the rise of the American left and the change into that direction. As a nordic I'm telling you this is an epic cope. The nordic countries are the most leftist on earth safe for actual literal communist states and historically they have been 90+% white. Nations like Iceland are still 90+% white. And they still have leftist feminist government crap.
Sorry but demographics has nothing to do with if a nation goes left or not. If this was so then nations like Iceland would be hard conservative but instead they are 10x more leftist than the USA is. Despite being 90+% white.
The leftward shift in the USA was always going to happen with or without immigration. Market economics are failing and the ideas of neo-liberalism don't appeal to people anymore. So they are moving away from the right. Nothing to do with demographics.
once again a Left doesn't have a clue.
no. we on the right, don't blame immigration and shifting demographics for the rise of the American left.
that's simply not true at all.
in fact it is the LEFT that are trying to create a sense of inevitability in the rise of the left due to shifting demographics.
It has been the left that has been trying to increase immigration (both legal and illegal) of poor, dependent individuals to bolster their voter base.
the RIGHT, on the otherhand has pointed to the horrible liberal shift in education where devout and open communists dominate secondary education and whacked out progressive idiocy has been forced on our grade school kids.
you either don't have a clue, or like the rest of the crap that comes from the left, you are deflecting.
either way, like every other Prog i see, you say stuff that just doesn't have a basis in reality.
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