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Things were better for black families in the 1960s (post Civil rights, of course). There were more intact families, and lots more black-owned businesses. What changed?
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Originally Posted by green_mariner
There is nothing stopping Black people from owning businesses today. Nothing stopping people from having children in wedlock. Starting a business and starting a family, that is within your control. This is why I disagree with the notion of "it was better in the 1960s". Blacks are the most free they have ever been since this country got started.
Everyone's out of wedlock birth rates have risen for the most part since 1970. Product of "I don't need a man" mantra. Blacks were leading the country in out of wedlock births anyway, going back to the Depression days.
Doesn't answer my question, though: why were there more black-owned businesses and intact families in the 1960s? And, by that measure, blacks WERE doing better.
Doesn't answer my question, though: why were there more black-owned businesses and intact families in the 1960s? And, by that measure, blacks WERE doing better.
Doesn't answer my question, though: why were there more black-owned businesses and intact families in the 1960s? And, by that measure, blacks WERE doing better.
He knows the answer, but just doesn't want to admit it. LBJ, The Great Society and War on Poverty. Replace husbands with government checks, create generational dependency and control. What could go wrong?
When folklorist and blues record promoters went to the south looking for blues music they gleaned music from; juke joints, prisons, gambling, dens, and any place were they could find the lowest character of men.
The truth is they could have gone to any middle class black family home and found the same music and a much wider range of black music. It was more marketable if it was the music of "bad men."
They went to juke joints and other places of the like because that’s where people get entertainment.
I’m absolutely certain that you don’t have to be of bad character to have went to juke joints, gamble, drink or be an alcoholic, go to night clubs etc. Prisons are different.
The entertainment industry in general of course doesn’t always have the most stellar people but I wouldn’t say it has the worse people either.
There is nothing stopping Black people from owning businesses today. Nothing stopping people from having children in wedlock. Starting a business and starting a family, that is within your control. This is why I disagree with the notion of "it was better in the 1960s". Blacks are the most free they have ever been since this country got started.
Everyone's out of wedlock birth rates have risen for the most part since 1970. Product of "I don't need a man" mantra. Blacks were leading the country in out of wedlock births anyway, going back to the Depression days.
Most white people dont see it this way, at least in my opinion. I think they very hard time grasping what freedom means.
I’m also sure there are also more black entrepreneurs and black businesses than there have ever been at any time in US history. That’s also not being mentioned and I don’t always buy the “things were so much better in the old days” mantra.
Doesn't answer my question, though: why were there more black-owned businesses and intact families in the 1960s? And, by that measure, blacks WERE doing better.
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Originally Posted by Pilot1
He knows the answer, but just doesn't want to admit it. LBJ, The Great Society and War on Poverty. Replace husbands with government checks, create generational dependency and control. What could go wrong?
Do you have any proof showing that there were more black owned businesses during the 60s?
Things were better for black families in the 1960s (post Civil rights, of course). There were more intact families, and lots more black-owned businesses. What changed?
What is your theory? Government intervention destroyed the family? This is an interesting discussion and I would honestly like to see the documentation on that.
Things were better for black families in the 1960s (post Civil rights, of course). There were more intact families, and lots more black-owned businesses. What changed?
What is your theory? Government intervention destroyed the family? This is an interesting discussion and I would honestly like to see the documentation on that.
What is your theory? Government intervention destroyed the family? This is an interesting discussion and I would honestly like to see the documentation on that.
"Data from the Small Business Administration indicates that just over 19 million businesses, or 70.9 percent of all U.S. businesses, are white-owned. Blacks own about 2.6 million businesses or 9.5 percent of all U.S. businesses, and Latinos own 3.3 million businesses or 12.2 percent of all American businesses. But the sales and employment numbers tell a more depressing story. The 19 million white-owned businesses have 88 percent of the overall sales, and control 86.5 percent of U.S. employment, while black businesses have a mere 1.3 percent of total American sales, and 1.7 percent of the nation’s employees. Latino businesses have 4 percent of U.S. sales and 4.2 percent of U.S. employment."
They went to juke joints and other places of the like because that’s where people get entertainment.
I’m absolutely certain that you don’t have to be of bad character to have went to juke joints, gamble, drink or be an alcoholic, go to night clubs etc. Prisons are different.
The entertainment industry in general of course doesn’t always have the most stellar people but I wouldn’t say it has the worse people either.
But during the same period the white artist were found on back porches and at family and community gatherings. That's why we have the Carter Family. There is already research that proved Alan Lomax, who wrote The land where the Blues Began, buried the research that showed black people and music that didn't fit his narrative.
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