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Old 05-11-2020, 06:19 PM
 
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Right -- but so many times on these boards the suggestion is that quality of life is all based on whether or not you are in a red or blue state.

It's ridiculous right?
Of course it is, no matter who says it. It's stated by people on both sides.
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Old 05-11-2020, 06:23 PM
 
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What the... Uh, yeah. All elites chose to live here, because they can afford it and it has a natural beauty and plenty which is unparalleled in the world. Cali is the gateway to anything you want to see or do.

The point is, ONLY ELITES CAN LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF REGRESSIVE SOCIALISM THAT DESTROYS THE MIDDLE CLASS.

And, if you have money, you can segregate yourself from the crime. Taxation and crime make this place hell for anyone not rich or on the dole/illegal/criminal.

By putting the word "elite" in your argument, you have totally made the point of those who know this is a failed state.
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Old 05-11-2020, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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We hear the endless whining on this forum that California is a "failed state" and that there is a "mass exodus" because it has become such a "terrible" place to live. Obviously, the conservatives on this forum are taking marching orders from people in the media that have repeated the same tropes, namely on platforms such as VOA, Fox News, Breitbart, etc.

What is incredibly ironic is the fact that many of the commentators that are chief critics of California politics voluntarily choose to reside in California.

Let's name some of the conservatives/Republicans that choose to live in California. Key word choose because it's 2020 and you don't need to be in Hollywood or Silicon Valley to be an influencer anymore.

- Ben Shapiro
- Mike Rowe
- Peter Thiel
- Dave Rubin
- Dinesh D'Souza
- Ann Coulter
- Frank Luntz
- Dennis Prager
- Palmer Luckey
- Tomi Lahren
- the list goes on...

The Ayn Rand Institute is located in Irvine of all places, one of the most heavily regulated cities in the most heavily regulated state in the nation.

And if they don't live in California, they more than likely reside in New York City. Rush Limbaugh has famously lectured about the "importance of not forgetting about rural America" from comfort of his NYC penthouse.

It is interesting that the liberal elite more or less reside where their audience is. The same cannot be said for conservatives.

It's nice to keep your enemies near. Cali is a great state with the best climate in the USA and many nice areas if you are rich or poor illegal. It sux if you're middle class though.
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Old 05-11-2020, 06:29 PM
 
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Of course it is, no matter who says it. It's stated by people on both sides.
Yeah -- but there is a campaign with a few posters that rarely bring up the shortcomins of the red state -- lol.
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Old 05-11-2020, 06:45 PM
 
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by Drewjdeg View Post
We hear the endless whining on this forum that California is a "failed state" and that there is a "mass exodus" because it has become such a "terrible" place to live. Obviously, the conservatives on this forum are taking marching orders from people in the media that have repeated the same tropes, namely on platforms such as VOA, Fox News, Breitbart, etc.

What is incredibly ironic is the fact that many of the commentators that are chief critics of California politics voluntarily choose to reside in California.

Let's name some of the conservatives/Republicans that choose to live in California. Key word choose because it's 2020 and you don't need to be in Hollywood or Silicon Valley to be an influencer anymore.

- Ben Shapiro
- Mike Rowe
- Peter Thiel
- Dave Rubin
- Dinesh D'Souza
- Ann Coulter
- Frank Luntz
- Dennis Prager
- Palmer Luckey
- Tomi Lahren
- the list goes on...

The Ayn Rand Institute is located in Irvine of all places, one of the most heavily regulated cities in the most heavily regulated state in the nation.

And if they don't live in California, they more than likely reside in New York City. Rush Limbaugh has famously lectured about the "importance of not forgetting about rural America" from comfort of his NYC penthouse.

It is interesting that the liberal elite more or less reside where their audience is. The same cannot be said for conservatives.
Like it or hate it the following is only my opinion:

Successful people usually have more than one home and are not judged because of where they live.
Should former President Obama be labeled an Uncle Tom for living in Kalorama Washington D.C.
with median home prices of $1.5 million and is 83% White 7% Chinese 6% other and only 4% Black ?
Answer is NO.................. Nice Try............
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Old 05-11-2020, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Welp! In that case i am guilty as well.

I guess it's my fault for born & raised in California.
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Old 05-11-2020, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Why should people leave a state if they can afford to live there just because the state is poorly run? People have made their lives in California. In some ways, its the coward's way out to cut and run when the going gets tough.
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Old 05-11-2020, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Believe it or not, but personal politics is not the sole determining factor in people's decision of where to live.
How dare you refute the OP’s baseless claims.

Don’t you know politics based on local and state governments dictates where your place of employment and residence should be? As a libertarian I’m technically not allowed to even be in America
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Old 05-11-2020, 11:51 PM
 
Location: California
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Why wouldn't they? CA may be conservative someday, no reason to give that idea up.
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Old 05-11-2020, 11:58 PM
 
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Californians are hoping to get their state back. This dictatorship by petty Dem bureaucrats is the last straw and more Dems will #WalkAway
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