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Old 05-14-2020, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The purpose of instigating Mueller has almost nothing to do with his report. Which by the way, the left promised for two plus years that it was going to contain bombshell revelations against the President and it ended up producing nothing. So new probes into this are trying to is expose any lies/cover-ups that led to the investigations in the first place. Some of the tactics used were clearly against the law and this scandal could go as high as Obama. We'll know for sure as more evidence is revealed.
Mueller and his team were not responsible for events that occured before their investgation, and I don't see any purpose in invetigating Mueller or his team as they went to great lengths to stay within their legal remit and stated in terms of the Steele report that it could not be proved as there was no hard evidence to back up the dossier or many other allegations.

Criminal referrals in relation to Mueller and his team are not going to stand up in the Courts and are a waste of time.
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Mueller and his team were not responsible for events that occured before their investgation, and I don't see any purpose in invetigating Mueller or his team as they went to great lengths to stay within their legal remit and stated in terms of the Steele report that it could not be proved as there was no hard evidence to back up the dossier or many other allegations.

Criminal referrals in relation to Mueller and his team are not going to stand up in the Courts and are a waste of time.
Mueller hired all Democrats including main players in the plot discussed in Andy's office to overthrow the election and hid exculpatory evidence for people close to Trump and convicted people for minor infractions and making up stuff and leaking false information to the Fake News media that convinced the idiots of America people's guilt far beyond their culpability. Mueller did a rotten job and needs to explain his role in the conspiracy to depose the President.

If Mueller had hired a less biased team, none of the last 3 years of dividing America would have happened but he deliberately built a super biased team of Trump haters who cared nothing for the rights or injuries to the people they hurt.

After the election, Trump will Pardon all of the people the Democrats locked up for supporting Trump except for Mike Cohen.
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Mueller and his team were not responsible for events that occured before their investgation, and I don't see any purpose in invetigating Mueller or his team as they went to great lengths to stay within their legal remit and stated in terms of the Steele report that it could not be proved as there was no hard evidence to back up the dossier or many other allegations.

Criminal referrals in relation to Mueller and his team are not going to stand up in the Courts and are a waste of time.
Wait what????

Yet his team spent weeks and months investigating financial crimes from decades ago to try and flip key witnesses.

Maybe they should have spent a little bit of time investigating the investigators and they would have discovered the FISA abuse and what the true motives were.
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Mueller hired all Democrats including main players in the plot discussed in Andy's office to overthrow the election and hid exculpatory evidence for people close to Trump and convicted people for minor infractions and making up stuff and leaking false information to the Fake News media that convinced the idiots of America people's guilt far beyond their culpability. Mueller did a rotten job and needs to explain his role in the conspiracy to depose the President.

If Mueller had hired a less biased team, none of the last 3 years of dividing America would have happened but he deliberately built a super biased team of Trump haters who cared nothing for the rights or injuries to the people they hurt.

After the election, Trump will Pardon all of the people the Democrats locked up for supporting Trump except for Mike Cohen.
I don't recall any startling revelations being in the Mueller report, and Mueller ddn't convict anyone as that's the remit of the Courts.

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Wait what????

Yet his team spent weeks and months investigating financial crimes from decades ago to try and flip key witnesses.

Maybe they should have spent a little bit of time investigating the investigators and they would have discovered the FISA abuse and what the true motives were.
Mueller left a lot of the financial invesigation to the Southern District New York, whilst there is now a number of cases arthe Supreme Court in relation to Trump's Financia and Taxl records/

The Supreme Court being increasingly made up of Trump Appointments and Trump is an old hand in terms of using Lawyers to stave off investigations.

Donald Trump brings his claim of absolute power to the supreme court - The Guardian (May 2020)

The Steele Dossier was largely ignored by Mueller as there was no hard evidence, and the FISA relied on a number of factors including intelligence from foreign intelligence agencies and information supplied by a Foreign Power in relation to George Papadopoulos.

In terms of Devin Nunes, a number of foreign intelligence agencies are not interested in him and other than a couple of brief casual meeting they are not really interested.

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Old 05-14-2020, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't recall any startling revelations being in the Mueller report, and Mueller ddn't convict anyone as that's the remit of the Courts.



Mueller left a lot of the financial invesigation to the New York Southern District, although I am not sure what happened to their investigation.

The Steele Dossier was largely ignored by Mueller as there was no hard evidence, and the FISA relied on a number of factors including intelligence from foreign intelligence agencies and information supplied by a Foreign Power in relation to George Papadopoulos.
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The fact the FBI turned up no useful evidence from the FISA warrants, which was pointed out in the Mueller report, is a huge red flag in my opinion. Why it wasn’t investigated further by the Mueller team is a legitimate question, especially as more information comes out.
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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The fact the FBI turned up no useful evidence from the FISA warrants, which was pointed out in the Mueller report, is a huge red flag in my opinion. Why it wasn’t investigated further by the Mueller team is a legitimate question, especially as more information comes out.
A FISA report is based on what is available at the time and there was intelligence supplioed by numerous overseas intelligence agencies and trusted foreign powers.

It was also established that it was the Australian High Commisioner and his concerns regarding George Papadopoulos that started FBI involevement and concerns rather tha the later Steele Dossier.
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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As for the curreent legal arguments they have far reaching consequences for the US in terms of determing the power of the US President with Trump's Lawyer's arguing "that the president can behave with impunity and that article II and the supremacy clause, mean not only that the president cannot be indicted or put on trial for committing a crime, but also that he cannot be subject to any criminal investigation during his term in office".

Donald Trump brings his claim of absolute power to the supreme court - The Guardian (May 2020)
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:51 AM
 
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Unlike any political actor in the Russian collusion hoax, AG Barr and Mr Durham have actual proof of felonies committed against Americans for political gain. Leftists had nothing and lied about it to the public for three years, especially Adam Schiff. What a scumbag.

Obama didn't want his legacy undone. He didn't want the transformation of America to stop. He mistakenly believed his own BS, that he and his ilk were too smart to be caught. LOL. Not so much.

Trump and company have taken Emerson to heart. "When you strike at a king, you must kill him." They are getting all their ducks in a row to not only strike at the king, but to wipe out his entire court of corruption and graft.

I can't wait.
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Old 05-14-2020, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Man, how the tables have turned on the Democrats and the left involved in the coup to overturn the President of the United States.

This is the corruption story of the century. Just a devastatingly revealing blow to the FBI and the Obama Administration, pulling back the curtains on how everyone there was so intent on doing the exact opposite of the right thing to do.

What happened with Obama during this time? I think he was easily persuaded by an evil and corrupt bunch of folks. He let them run the show and this is where we are today.

It really puts a dark stain on the Obama "legacy." Yikes, terribly shocking and terribly disappointing.
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Old 05-14-2020, 08:00 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There is hell to pay for what the Democrats did .. and I hope they pay dearly....
The only justice, comes from the end of a rope, or the barrel of a gun.
Remember, We The People are the Government.
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