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Old 06-01-2020, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Small example....privilege -- there is footage of a white woman taking stuff from a store that was looted. As the woman is filling her bag with goodies the reporter comments she hopes that the woman is an employee just picking up stuff --- if it was a black woman doing that - you know nobody is going to wonder if she is an employee......small example.
Hypocritical. You want to talk about this kind of *privilege* but never talk about the *privilege* of black people on various networks bashing white people when a white person will get canned if they say anything that isn't sympathetic to black people.

You don't want to talk about the *privilege* of retail security being told to let groups of black shoplifters out of the store without stopping them so they don't get media backlash, though white shoplifters are treated like the criminals they are.

You don't address *privilege* when it comes to lower standards for jobs and university admissions for some groups. I'm all for putting jobs and seats aside to make sure urm's have access, but lowering standards is a privilege not granted to other groups - not even impoverished Asian or white kids.

Why do people want to call things a privilege when it comes to white people but never when it comes to other groups?

That's loony liberalism at its finest and it's racist.
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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You don't address *privilege* when it comes to lower standards for jobs and university admissions for some groups. I'm all for putting jobs and seats aside to make sure urm's have access, but lowering standards is a privilege not granted to other groups - not even impoverished Asian or white kids.
This is my favorite example of privilege and how inconceivably blind people are to understanding it.

Like... Let's talk about how one group (Blacks) can get in, not entirely on merit, but ignore the overwhelming group of students (Whites) who get in, not entirely on merit, b/c they play lacrosse, wrestle, fence, row, etc...

Let's talk about how one group (Blacks) can get a job that they might not be the best candidate, but ignore that massive group (Whites) that get their jobs b/c their dad was in frat with the boss ?

No matter how you try to frame the leg up Black & Brown people get, it's a drop in the bucket to all the leg ups that White people have been benefitting from for much longer and in greater numbers.
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Old 06-01-2020, 03:28 PM
 
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What’s the skin color of the kids?
The fact that someone even asks this question
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Old 06-01-2020, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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This is my favorite example of privilege and how inconceivably blind people are to understanding it.

Like... Let's talk about how one group (Blacks) can get in, not entirely on merit, but ignore the overwhelming group of students (Whites) who get in, not entirely on merit, b/c they play lacrosse, wrestle, fence, row, etc...

Let's talk about how one group (Blacks) can get a job that they might not be the best candidate, but ignore that massive group (Whites) that get their jobs b/c their dad was in frat with the boss ?

No matter how you try to frame the leg up Black & Brown people get, it's a drop in the bucket to all the leg ups that White people have been benefitting from for much longer and in greater numbers.
My point is, if one is privileged, they both are. You cannot talk about privilege of one group without talking about privileges of both groups.

Look what you did. You mentioned fencing, wrestling, lacrosse and row for getting into college, and conveniently left out football and basketball. Wonder why......

As for jobs, I stated I have no problem with putting aside slots for jobs and college admissions for urm's. I'm not in favor of lowering the standards to let in anyone.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Being born in America is a privilege.
Maybe not this week ...
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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My point is, if one is privileged, they both are. You cannot talk about privilege of one group without talking about privileges of both groups.

Look what you did. You mentioned fencing, wrestling, lacrosse and row for getting into college, and conveniently left out football and basketball. Wonder why......

As for jobs, I stated I have no problem with putting aside slots for jobs and college admissions for urm's. I'm not in favor of lowering the standards to let in anyone.
You're missing the point. "Privilege" also means not having your privilege checked or questioned. Whatever windfall you get, you deserve. That's privilege that's reserved for a slice of the population. Meanwhile, everyone else has to prove they earned their place. They have to defend against people challenging them... why did YOU get that privileged spot? No one has ever asked how the mouth-breather Donald Trump Jr got into Penn, but that's all you guys wanted to know about Obama.

I left out basketball and football b/c everyone already knows those spots are dominated by Black athletes who benefit from selective admission. Those spots also make up a fraction of the sports body for a school. White athletes make up 56% of the student athletes, yet you'll never hear someone talk about what standards were lowered to let a rower in, like you hear to let a linebacker in.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Lets say you have to kids. One makes bad grades, is always in trouble at school, and doesn't respect others and there is clear evidence of this. The other kid makes good grades, studies hard, and is respectful . Is it really a privilege is the good kid is treated better or was it something earned? I mean if it wasn't earned, then I would say its a privilege, but otherwise, it could not be considered a privilege.
Privilege is something the identity politics left made up. At a party when things get out of hand, which group are you going to be afraid of? Women or men? B-b-b-but that's sexist, right? Women have a privilege.

Always believe a woman!?
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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You're missing the point. "Privilege" also means not having your privilege checked or questioned. Whatever windfall you get, you deserve. That's privilege that's reserved for a slice of the population. Meanwhile, everyone else has to prove they earned their place. They have to defend against people challenging them... why did YOU get that privileged spot? No one has ever asked how the mouth-breather Donald Trump Jr got into Penn, but that's all you guys wanted to know about Obama.

I left out basketball and football b/c everyone already knows those spots are dominated by Black athletes who benefit from selective admission. Those spots also make up a fraction of the sports body for a school. White athletes make up 56% of the student athletes, yet you'll never hear someone talk about what standards were lowered to let a rower in, like you hear to let a linebacker in.
There's no such thing as privilege so there's noting to check or question. It's a fallacy some idiotic white SJWs came up with and you've fallen for it.

You never hear people talking about other athletes getting into a school strictly based on their ability to exceed in that sport and not because of academic achievement, other than linebackers? You need to get out more.
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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There's no such thing as privilege so there's noting to check or question. It's a fallacy some idiotic white SJWs came up with and you've fallen for it.

You never hear people talking about other athletes getting into a school strictly based on their ability to exceed in that sport and not because of academic achievement, other than linebackers? You need to get out more.
Name the court case where some denied White or Asian student sued the school b/c the school lowered standards to let in a White person for their extracurriculars, or their sports, or their connections with the school.

B/c the only people I've ever seen attacked for that are Black and Brown people. But it's telling that you don't think it's a privilege to NOT have your accomplishments questioned or disparaged just b/c of who you are.
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Old 06-02-2020, 02:13 AM
 
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You are dead wrong. That’s not how the reality works.

In the real world:
1. If you are white, you are privileged regardless.
2. If you are Asian, you are over-privileged.
3. If you are black, you are under-privileged no matter what.

Skin color is everything.
This is a laughably simple way to look at a complex world and is completely wrong. A white or Asian person born with an extreme physical disability or whose parents abandoned him at birth an grew up an orphan is not privileged. Will Smith's children or Obama's children are not underprivileged.

I'm consistently blown away that adults, who are literate and educated can be simple enough to believe what you just said. It's so dishonest and not rooted in reality at all.
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