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Old 06-01-2020, 05:49 PM
 
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Yep, given it's Chicago, those 27 Democrats killed will still vote in November.
103% of them are registered voters. That worked for Obama.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:58 PM
 
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I did have that thought...27 less Democrat voters (unless Republicans can stop them from voting a few times from the grave).
Great minds, my friends.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:00 PM
 
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Lol. The spike, over the weekend, is due to decades of having babies out of wedlock? Did all those babies become of gun tooting age last weekend, creating the spike? Pure stupidity.....or prejudice....or BOTH, is at the root of such bad reasoning.

If having babies out of wedlock is the root cause of violence and blacks have children out of wedlock at 2.5 times the rate of whites.....why is the black murder rate 8 or 9 times the rate of whites? In other words, if the theory of out of wedlock birth is SOUND, then it applies to all races and children born out of wedlock producing the effect of heightened levels of violent crime. However, that is not what the data shows. The black murder rate should be only 2.5 times the rate of whites since the out of wedlock birth rate is 2.5 times higher. How about, also, the fact that in many Scandinavian countries, that the rate of out of wedlock birth is close to half.....yet....no high murder rates.

Of course, its better to have two parents living in the same household....however, obviously most populations with high rates of out of wedlock birth, which are not historically oppressed groups of people, don't have high rates of violent crime. 70% of children born in Iceland are born out of wedlock.....what is the murder and crime rate of Iceland? What percent of Icelanders are descended from enslavement in Iceland?

Obviously some people are hell bent on finding something other than what was done to black people, to blame for things like high violent crime rates in the black community. You have to eliminate the external as cause in order to argue that it is the internal nature of black people to act like that. There is a term for people who rationalize like that...and it begins with a "R"......and its not "right".
That you had to point this out to OP is sad.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:03 PM
 
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Wow, it really seems like this is a trend across the country though.

The spike is due to decades is people having babies while in poverty and the hopelessness of the children they have that join gangs in the drug trade so they have a sense of belonging.

The cities also are to blame as they collect a fortune in taxes and spend it on things like stadiums, airports and six-figure pensions rather than outreach programs with 24 hour recreational facilities and work programs with no barriers to entry.

Every big city I have been in except for San Francisco has a tremendous amount of women with many children in tow that they could not afford and appropriate emotionally support.

I wouldn't be surprised if many cities don't go back to early 90s level crime rates before to long.

Even with these numbers, Chicago has a much, much lower rate of homicide of many cities across the country.

Sad state of affairs though in much of America these days. Decades of people in poverty getting pregnant and having as many babies as they can, the police and community not having any communication and deep mistrust on both sides.

Executives taking job overseas and politicians allowing them to do that leaving many of an urban area drug trafficking and dealing as a career instead of the job, hearty jobs of the 1950s and 1960s.

https://abc7chicago.com/92-shot-27-f...-2020/6224654/
I thought black lives mattered though ?
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:04 PM
 
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Thought Trump was going to fix that.

Ooops -- not so easy.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:09 PM
 
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Yep, given it's Chicago, those 27 Democrats killed will still vote in November.
The voters do not decide elections. The people counting the votes decide them! Democracy 101.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:11 PM
 
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Systematic racism forced people to have children they can’t afford.
Tell me how that works.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:37 PM
 
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Those black lives do not matter, you will never see these "protesters" confronting those gangs that are committing this violence. They do not care about lives, all they care about is destroying things.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:40 PM
 
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Wow, it really seems like this is a trend across the country though.

The spike is due to decades is people having babies while in poverty and the hopelessness of the children they have that join gangs in the drug trade so they have a sense of belonging.

The cities also are to blame as they collect a fortune in taxes and spend it on things like stadiums, airports and six-figure pensions rather than outreach programs with 24 hour recreational facilities and work programs with no barriers to entry.

Every big city I have been in except for San Francisco has a tremendous amount of women with many children in tow that they could not afford and appropriate emotionally support.

I wouldn't be surprised if many cities don't go back to early 90s level crime rates before to long.

Even with these numbers, Chicago has a much, much lower rate of homicide of many cities across the country.

Sad state of affairs though in much of America these days. Decades of people in poverty getting pregnant and having as many babies as they can, the police and community not having any communication and deep mistrust on both sides.

Executives taking job overseas and politicians allowing them to do that leaving many of an urban area drug trafficking and dealing as a career instead of the job, hearty jobs of the 1950s and 1960s.

https://abc7chicago.com/92-shot-27-f...-2020/6224654/
It was worse in the past when I lived there. One weekend in the '70's we had 33 murders.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:55 PM
 
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Lol. The spike, over the weekend, is due to decades of having babies out of wedlock? Did all those babies become of gun toting age last weekend, creating the spike? Pure stupidity.....or prejudice....or BOTH, is at the root of such bad reasoning.

If having babies out of wedlock is the root cause of violence and blacks have children out of wedlock at 2.5 times the rate of whites.....why is the black murder rate 8 or 9 times the rate of whites? In other words, if the theory of out of wedlock birth is SOUND, then it applies to all races and children born out of wedlock producing the effect of heightened levels of violent crime. However, that is not what the data shows. The black murder rate should be only 2.5 times the rate of whites since the out of wedlock birth rate is 2.5 times higher. How about, also, the fact that in many Scandinavian countries, that the rate of out of wedlock birth is close to half.....yet....no high murder rates.

Of course, its better to have two parents living in the same household....however, obviously most populations with high rates of out of wedlock birth, which are not historically oppressed groups of people, don't have high rates of violent crime. 70% of children born in Iceland are born out of wedlock.....what is the murder and crime rate of Iceland? What percent of Icelanders are descended from enslavement in Iceland?

Obviously some people are hell bent on finding something other than what was done to black people, to blame for things like high violent crime rates in the black community. You have to eliminate the external as cause in order to argue that it is the internal nature of black people to act like that. There is a term for people who rationalize like that...and it begins with a "R"......and its not "right".
Children being born out of wedlock IS the root of this. Just type in "fatherless children statistics". You will find that 70% of people incarcerated have never met their father, and 80% of killers, murder victims, gang members, robbers and rapists never met their father. Regardless of race. In these extremely violent ghettos almost all of the children are being raised by single mothers who are often abusive and mentally ill.
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