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Old 06-03-2020, 09:26 AM
 
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The same could be said for the Clinton to Bush2 comparison.


I also can't get over the number of R media types who make all these same liberal, out of control, sheeple, crazed characterizations of major metros who chose to live in those very cities. Savage is in San Fran, Limbaugh in a solidly D county in Florida, Hannity and O'Brien in NYC. CNN, Pat Robertson, Oprah, and Dave Ramsey have all proven you can host successful national shows without having to be in the NYC to DC corridor or the major California cities.
So so true. We have posters on this very thread that choose to live in liberal cities, all the while complaining.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:28 AM
 
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What I do see a lot of in this thread is people on the left saying why people on the right in rural areas should be forced to adhere to the ideology and policies of the democrats.
You do? Weird.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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The poor? California has 12% of the US population, but 34% of all those enrolled in public assistance. Why is there so much wage inequity in a blue state? Shouldn't the opposite be true in a blue state, what with the better policies Dems always claim to have?
California has a population of 39 million people. If you look at the number of SNAP recipients per 100k people, you will see that California has fewer recipients than 32 states
https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...ents-by-state/
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:34 AM
 
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Yes.
Oh, you're brilliant.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:37 AM
 
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because many people who live in cities are poor and destitute living in squalor and believe Democrats will take money from other people and give it to them like they've promised to do since LBJ was in office and never have.

Quite a scam the Dems have been running on these willing dupes for 60 years now. lol
You live in Boston.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:39 AM
 
Location: NC
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Why are most cities in this country that are medium sized or larger run by Democrats?
Because cities run by Republicans tend to be places where meth-labs and Dollar Generals Thrive.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:40 AM
 
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This is exactly why I can't take people who decry cities seriously. They can say and think whatever they want, but people who live in rural areas would be suffering without the assistance of blue cities and their metropolitan areas. I live in Philly, a city with a larger metropolitan economy than many STATES. These rural areas can't generate as much money as major cities do, which is why they are reliant upon our tax dollars for survival. Farmers can't even make money without farm subidies!

Also, 9 of the 10 poorest states and 93-97 of the 100 poorest counties are GOP-dominated.
So take away all subsidies an the farmers will grow what they want and charge what they need to charge to make a living and your food cost will skyrocket. Cities are just as dependent on rural areas as the rural areas are on the cities.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:45 AM
 
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That is an unpopular fact. And when the redhats out in the countryside need something that is attached to civilization - advanced medical care, for instance - they rush to those cities they spend the rest of their time looking down on.
And when the city dwellers need things like food, fuel, etc...…………………….
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:46 AM
 
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So take away all subsidies an the farmers will grow what they want and charge what they need to charge to make a living and your food cost will skyrocket. Cities are just as dependent on rural areas as the rural areas are on the cities.
Let's find out if that's true. Rather than throwing BILLIONS of dollars at less than 2% of the population, let capitalism and free markets work for farms the way it does for everything else. If Republicans really oppose socialism, prove it! Stop insulting cities while taking our tax dollars. Instead of telling us to pay for your roads, toll them. Increase property taxes to pay for rural broadband. Tell coal miners their pension was private, it failed and they need to sort that out themselves. Tell Kentucky the money spigot is over. Republicans need to prove they really oppose socialism rather than screaming it while demanding handouts.

I know farms in Missouri that made more money from insurance after a flood than they do farming. Trump can't throw money at the farmers fast enough because it's not his money.

Missouri, Kansas farmers rely on federal bailout money — including GOP congresswoman
https://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...233291312.html

"Farmers have relied on government assistance for decades through the Farm Bill, passed every five years and projected to cost $428 billion over the next half a decade."
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/02...cash-handouts/

Add tariff money and all the other handouts and farmers are getting about a $100 billion a year to grow food we PAY FOR.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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Let's find out if that's true. Rather than throwing BILLIONS of dollars at less than 2% of the population, let capitalism and free markets work for farms the way it does for everything else. If Republicans really oppose socialism, prove it! Stop insulting cities while taking our tax dollars. Instead of telling us to pay for your roads, toll them. Increase property taxes to pay for rural broadband. Tell coal miners their pension was private, it failed and they need to sort that out themselves. Tell Kentucky the money spigot is over. Republicans need to prove they really oppose socialism rather than screaming it while demanding handouts.

I know farms in Missouri that made more money from insurance after a flood than they do farming. Trump can't throw money at the farmers fast enough because it's not his money.
The system in place has nothing to do with the current president anymore than it has to so with the last president. I am all in for free market...…… why do you think we would need to increase property taxes? Let the market take care of it. If there is money in rural broadband then someone will provide it. I agree on pensions...……. as long as it goes across the board. Let ALL city and state pension funds deal with their own shortfalls. I'm not a republican so none of that partisan rhetoric bothers me. EDIT. Your own link says "DECADES" That means how many administrations on both sides? Also...……….. the very point I'm making is that you are incorrectly assuming the farmers would need any bailouts. After a catastrophe or bad year why wouldn't they simply instantly raise prices to whatever they needed to cover the shortfall? What are you going to do, not buy any food?
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