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Old 06-05-2020, 08:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
I guess you have not observed a very important factor, taken from military code of conduct.
The Oath they take, is not just against foreign enemies.
Look what is boiling.


Have you observed, not one of them, Mattis, McMasters or Kelley, has said anything about unconstitutional actions.


Do those men still wear a uniform.... Who is their commander again?
Unlawful orders MUST not be followed. Remember Nuremburg?

 
Old 06-05-2020, 09:57 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
I guess you have not observed a very important factor, taken from military code of conduct.
The Oath they take, is not just against foreign enemies.
Look what is boiling.


Have you observed, not one of them, Mattis, McMasters or Kelley, has said anything about unconstitutional actions by Trump


Do those men still wear a uniform.... Who is their commander again?
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Originally Posted by normstad View Post
Unlawful orders MUST not be followed. Remember Nuremburg?
That was not in their reasoning.
Committing Mutiny has its own pitfalls.
 
Old 06-06-2020, 05:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
I guess you have not observed a very important factor, taken from military code of conduct.
The Oath they take, is not just against foreign enemies.
Look what is boiling.


Have you observed, not one of them, Mattis, McMasters or Kelley, has said anything about unconstitutional actions.


Do those men still wear a uniform.... Who is their commander again?
So once again we have the argument defending Trump "its legal", not much of a high bar for this president. Under Trump we have found out a lot about the actions a president can get away with performing.
 
Old 06-06-2020, 05:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
I guess you have not observed a very important factor, taken from military code of conduct.
The Oath they take, is not just against foreign enemies.
Look what is boiling.

Have you observed, not one of them, Mattis, McMasters or Kelley, has said anything about unconstitutional actions.

Do those men still wear a uniform.... Who is their commander again?
All three men you mention no longer wear a uniform. You did not know that?

They are free to give their opinions on anything they choose. Interesting that all three have been highly critical of Trump.
 
Old 06-06-2020, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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All three men you mention no longer wear a uniform. You did not know that?

They are free to give their opinions on anything they choose. Interesting that all three have been highly critical of Trump.
The strange bubble that conspiracy theorists inhabit is not penetrable by pesky objective facts.
 
Old 06-06-2020, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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These are men of war. The fact they don't comprehend POTUS is not surprising.
 
Old 06-06-2020, 08:21 AM
 
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The strange bubble that conspiracy theorists inhabit is not penetrable by pesky objective facts.
If most of your info comes from Trump's tweets then you are mostly devoid of facts. Mattis did not get fired by either Trump or Obama and Trump did not give him the name Mad Dog. But who needs facts when you have Trump.
 
Old 06-06-2020, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Liberals accused Mattis of sending boys to war to kill kids over oil.

All of a sudden they’re in bed with him? Go figure.
 
Old 06-06-2020, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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If most of your info comes from Trump's tweets then you are mostly devoid of facts. Mattis did not get fired by either Trump or Obama and Trump did not give him the name Mad Dog. But who needs facts when you have Trump.
You mean..the President LIED? But...that's not possible! If he lies about this, he might be lying about a LOT of other things!

We have to look in his heart, for alternative facts.
 
Old 06-06-2020, 09:29 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So once again we have the argument defending Trump "its legal", not much of a high bar for this president. Under Trump we have found out a lot about the actions a president can get away with performing.
Presidents in the past have done the same and brought in the NG, and the military to DC, starting with George Washington.
You cannot possibly be saying Trump is the first, are you?
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