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View Poll Results: Should the Minneapolis Police Department Mass Resign?
Yes: Be the early bird looking for police openings elsewhere before other blue cities eliminate cops 51 76.12%
No: It will result in more deaths and chaos 16 23.88%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-07-2020, 05:58 PM
 
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A Veto Proof Majority of Minneapolis City Council Members have just stated that they will disband the police.

If they will lose their jobs, shouldn't they just mass resign now.


#1 They can start looking to more reasonable communities for job openings before other liberal cities cut funds and have police layoffs or disband their entire police force as well. You want to be the first unemployed cops so you can find a job easier before competing against other laid off cops.

#2 Apparently giving the mob what they want will reign down an era of inner city peace and save lives.
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Old 06-07-2020, 06:00 PM
 
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A lot of the police have pensions that they can't afford to walk away from. It's not clear how they will be paid out if the police department is disbanded.
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Old 06-07-2020, 06:06 PM
 
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They can apply to work in other cities and then quit
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Old 06-07-2020, 06:07 PM
 
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A lot of the police have pensions that they can't afford to walk away from. It's not clear how they will be paid out if the police department is disbanded.
Public Pensions have a clear policy where if they leave outside their pension system that they will be able to salvage some of their pension money and roll it over into an IRA or annuity.
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Old 06-07-2020, 06:08 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Looks to me the city council is going to not honor any pension vesting. They did say disband through defunding. Pensions are part of funding.

Yeah, I think they should all drop their badges and guns wherever they are standing saddle up and sink spur. The city government is going to far to fast.

This will likely not end well.
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Old 06-07-2020, 06:10 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop in a deep blue hellhole like Minneapolis. Of course they should resign. Let those morons fend for themselves.

I do appreciate Minneapolis illustrating why no sane person should EVER vote for anyone with a (D) after their name.
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Old 06-07-2020, 06:12 PM
 
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if I was a criminal living in chicago or detroit, I would hope they'd resign quickly.
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Old 06-07-2020, 06:14 PM
 
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A lot of the police have pensions that they can't afford to walk away from. It's not clear how they will be paid out if the police department is disbanded.
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If You Leave Before Retirement If your public service ends after you are vested for a benefit but are under age 50, you may leave your contributions with PERA and qualify for a later retirement benefit, called a deferred pension. When you terminate PERA-covered employment and leave your contributions in the fund rather than take a refund, PERA calculates a pension amount based upon your years of service and average salary at termination. You can begin receiving a lifetime benefit any time after reaching age 50, but benefits must begin before age 70½. If you were first hired into public service prior to July 1, 1989, deferred benefits can begin at any age if you have 30 or more years of service. You may also qualify for the Rule of 90 (age plus years of service equal 90 years) as a deferred member. Even though you are no longer in public service, you are a month closer to the Rule of 90 for every month your contributions remain with PERA. If you terminate public service but do not want to leave your employee contributions with PERA, you may request a refund of your employee contributions plus interest, compounded annually. You may apply for a refund immediately upon termination of PERAcovered employment, or you may leave the contributions in PERA and apply for a refund at any time before a deferred benefit is paid. When you collect a refund of employee contributions, you forfeit all future PERA benefits, such as a pension. (See Refunds and Repaying a Refund on page 4.)
How much are employee contributions?

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Amount of Your Contributions You and your employer both contribute to PERA on your behalf. You currently contribute 10.8 percent of your total salary to PERA through payroll deductions. Your employer contributes 16.2 percent.
Effective January 1, 2019, members will contribute 11.3 percent and employers will contribute 16.95 percent. Effective January 1, 2020, members will contribute 11.8 percent and employers will contribute 17.7 percent. In addition, if you were hired after March 31, 1986, a portion of your salary is deducted for Medicare coverage through Social Security. Because the Police and Fire Plan is a defined benefit plan, contribution rates periodically change to reflect changes in benefits and funding needs.
https://mnpera.org/wp-content/uploads/PF-Updated.pdf


It stinks, but they will be okay. Roll it into an IRA or annuity.
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Old 06-07-2020, 06:16 PM
 
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Minneapolis is one of the better if not the best second-third tier US city, all things considered.

But their virtue signalling government, in voting to eliminate the Police department, is de facto asking for the National Guard to permanently police the city.

The current Minneapolis government is a national embarrassment.

The residents can't want the elimination of the Police Department. It'll be amazing if the City Council isn't group impeached or otherwise disbanded by a higher up.
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Old 06-07-2020, 06:18 PM
 
Location: California
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I don't know. I wonder if the "new system" is just going to be the current one under a different banner. If not, I'm not sure what the police officers will think about going to work or risking their lives after today. Especially since this will ramp up the hate and violence towards them.
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