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I had police pull guns on me when I was 17 in NJ and shooting off fireworks. One of my friends another day had his arm broken and was completely calm and surrounded by witnesses. They threatened him enough to keep him from suing.
When I was robbed in college in broad daylight and terrified a cop showed up with huge attitude and told me they didn't care. Made 0 attempt to catch the perps or get our things back either and showed up a day later to say the case was closed.
On the other hand, the police in my area now are pretty calm, respectful and not ticket happy. But theyre still fairly useless at stopping crime and absolutely bankrupting the county with unsustainable pensions.
In reality with money being redirected instead to social programs the end result would most likely be better. The US imprisons more people per capita than almost.any other country on Earth.
I would like to know when is it acceptable to detain someone when there only crime is going on about their daily lives. I don't know the particulars in this case but I can say for certain to many cops think they can detain you for any reason the want.
Obviously, people are NOT pulled over for simply going about their daily lives, unless their daily lives include commiting crimes. As you well know, people are detained by police officers either because they were witnessed breaking the law, reported as having done so, or there is other probable cause (driving a vehicle resembling one involved in a crime, resembles a suspect involved in a crime, and so on) to stop a person. I'm not saying that it never occurs that an innocent person is detained ( hell, I was stopped one time for driving a vehicle resembling one involved in a bank robbery getaway), but these most often end up with that person being free to go with no adverse incidents.
But here's a hint. If you are stopped by a police officer for any reason, even if you believe you're as innocent as a newborn babe, you have to realize that cop stopped you for some reason, he isn't convinced of your automatic innocence or he would not have stopped you (would be a waste of his time). Acting like a reasonable human being, being polite, instead of going on the offensive and attacking the cop will get you on your way a lot faster than being antagonistic. And how any human being with even half a brain cell can not see that fighting with or physically threatening a law enforcement officer when he's approached could end any way but badly is beyond me.
So how about you answer MY question? To repeat, when did it become acceptable to threaten, or attack a police officer who's stopped or detained a person?
said the wrong thing to the wrong guy.....Squirm around and run your mouth, cops gonna kick you butt or shoot you. Black or White makes no difference but you go ahead and make you excuses.....
Castille did none of those things. You're right - you should NOT be making excuses for the public execution of Philando Castille.
I've been around for far too many years and had many run ins with police in my younger days. I don't recall ever encountering a bad one. Yes sir, no sir, thank you sir and it's all over with.
As far as many becoming cops because they have an axe to grind is all in your mind. Police go through an extreme pre hire testing, back ground, psychological testing, field testing. A few might occasional get through but it's rare. Your bias is showing..
I never really had problems with the cops until I was forced to get married when I was a child. He was very violent towards me and I'd sometimes manage to run away. The cops would help him track me down and force me to go back.
After I got away and moved to another state his cop buddies still used their resources to help him find my new address after I kept moving. After I finally figured out how he kept finding me I stopped updating my driver's license for several years to try and keep him from finding me again.
I have not had good encounters with police. Cops helped me be raped and beaten. They helped make sure that I lived in terror.
No one enforced restraining orders when I had them against him. He'd violate them frequently. I was treated like the criminal instead of the man terrorizing me. When I was still in his state, he would come up to me in a store, for example, and his cop buddies would tell me that he had a right to be there and that I would be arrested if I didn't leave. They said the restraining order applied to me too and so he would be following me around and if I complained the cops would threaten me with arrest instead of him.
I do not view cops as heroes. I avoid them whenever I can.
Hmm- the Bible and Gospels I follow look down poorly on murder- Where in the Bible does it say it's okay to knee choke a man to death and receive Grace from God?
Dunno, but the Bible promises that the authorities established over us won't be a terror to us if we submit to them and don't do evil. (Romans 13) Those promises have turned out to be lies quite a bit over the years.
What's more accurate is: "I took my mma class last night, and today I want to try out my new grappling move on whatever punk gives me a hard time". yeah think some of them don't think like that? I've been around them when they are together and drinking. The truth comes out.
When I was taking criminal justice classes we'd sometimes get actual LEOs in there. They'd sit around joking and bragging about using a taser on a sleeping homeless man and things like that. I think I was the only one who didn't laugh.
How funny that your experience differed so much as that of Philando Castile.
Pulled over because he 'looked like' a robbery suspect, it turned out quite a bit different for him.
Wonder why?
I got pulled over by a cop about 7 years ago for a broken tail light. When I reached for my registration he said loudly "KEEP YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM" I froze and then told him where it was and reached for it slowly. Philando Castile just had to obey the cop and he would have been fine. The cop told him to stop more than once.
Don't be silly. They are going to work for private security and start at twice their salary. And then they are going to tell their friends.
This is not going to end well for the average joe in this country.
I doubt the twice salary part.
Right, the base salary of police officers are not very high, but they all have tons of overtime and details.
My ex neighbor joined the Massachusetts State Police in 2014.
When I checked his salary earlier this year (public data) I saw he earned over $130k last year. I checked his salary because I saw the news some cops were convicted guilty this year for fake overtime.
Let them leave. There are other states that will welcome them. Minneapolis wants to exist with no cops so what else can they do.
Move to Las Vegas, and join Metro Police as a Vice Squad officer, assigned to the Las Vegas Strip where their job is to hunt down prostitutes on the street or lingering around the casino hotels. Afterall isn't this Sin City?
One Vice Squad officer detained a woman at a hotel, who looked like a Hooker, but was actually a nurse from Michigan visiting Sinless City, and she was detained for 2 hours. Kudo's to this woman, who sued the police department, made 3 trips for court trips and she won! $80,000 settlement! Right out of the taxpayer's wallets!
The judge condemned the officers: Haven't you got better things to do than hunt down Hookers on the Las Vegas Strip?
good. i'd much rather they be private security guards with more "leash" on them than cops where they can kill with impunity.
The killing with impunity when cops leave will be more blacks killing blacks. Just look to Baltimore for the blueprint.
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