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Old 06-16-2020, 08:23 AM
 
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"If you’ve been on social media lately, you have seen the left’s organized propaganda campaign regarding the supposedly nefarious reasons behind the erection of Confederate monuments in the past. In the bizarre mind of the left, who see all of American history only through the prisms of racism, sexism, bigotry, and homophobia, the only reason Southerners of the past put up statues honoring Confederate generals was to send a secret and subtle hidden racist message of white supremacy that would last into the future. We are actually surprised they aren’t claiming that Richard Spencer got in a time machine and put up the monuments himself, as there is as much proof of that as there is of their current theory."

Now for the rest of the story. Amazing how they could video tape the actual people who fought in the war and get their thoughts and attitudes from that time. They were trying to make peace, so sad people now are trying to dig up old resentments to fight over again.

 
Old 06-16-2020, 08:25 AM
 
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"Catholics 4 Trump" is a contradiction LOL.

I'll pass on this far-right propaganda. Thanks, though.
 
Old 06-16-2020, 08:27 AM
 
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Putting up statues of confederate generals and known KKK founder in a city center is not a subtle message.

Renaming bridges and schools to confederate generals and KKK members in the 1930’s - 1950’s was not a subtle message.

I’m waiting on the subtle part your referring too.
 
Old 06-16-2020, 08:31 AM
 
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"Catholics 4 Trump" is a contradiction LOL.

I'll pass on this far-right propaganda. Thanks, though.
I'm Catholic and I don't deal with the far right agenda. I don't like Trump either.
 
Old 06-16-2020, 08:41 AM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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Then why did they put them up?
 
Old 06-16-2020, 08:42 AM
 
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I though you guys didn't like participation trophies.
 
Old 06-16-2020, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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https://www.catholics4trump.com/the-...ILusiwtgqKMp7U

"If you’ve been on social media lately, you have seen the left’s organized propaganda campaign regarding the supposedly nefarious reasons behind the erection of Confederate monuments in the past. In the bizarre mind of the left, who see all of American history only through the prisms of racism, sexism, bigotry, and homophobia, the only reason Southerners of the past put up statues honoring Confederate generals was to send a secret and subtle hidden racist message of white supremacy that would last into the future. We are actually surprised they aren’t claiming that Richard Spencer got in a time machine and put up the monuments himself, as there is as much proof of that as there is of their current theory."

Now for the rest of the story. Amazing how they could video tape the actual people who fought in the war and get their thoughts and attitudes from that time. They were trying to make peace, so sad people now are trying to dig up old resentments to fight over again.
https://www.history.com/news/how-the...rate-monuments

Most of the monuments were put up by funds raised by the Daughters of the Confederacy who were at the forefront of the Lost Cause Movement. The Lost Cause Movement existed to present the confederacy in the best possible light as a historical entity. One of the reasons the monuments were put up around 1910is give or take is because a lot of the confederate veterans were starting to die.

However, the Daughters of the Confederacy spent a lot of time and money trying to brainwash the youth of that era concerning the Confederacy and the political positions that the Confederacy held regarding race and states rights etc. These young people grew up to join the Klan in the Klan's 1920s attempts to mainstream and then those people's kids were the people in the Klan and the White Citizen's Council of the 1950s.

The Daughter's of the Confederacy vetted school books for kids to only include textbooks that were sympathetic to the Lost Cause ideology.

Fact of the matter is that Republicans should loathe the Daughter's of the Confederacy. They were racist democrats just like you always tell us. The monuments they put up were memorials to other racist democrats who fought in the Civil War.

But instead you defend these monuments for all kinds of ridiculous reasons. If these people were the "evil democrats" that you claim they were...then you damn sure shouldn't be venerating their monuments of these equally evil confederate heroes.

And you can spare us the "cautionary tale" idea. 20 foot tall Robert E Lee or Jeff Davis statues in all their splendor are NOT the same as "Nazi Concentration Camps" in Europe or memorials to Atomic bomb victims in Japan.

I have a bit more sympathy for the generic "Confederate Dead" monuments for the poor sots who got killed in the war........but each community who has one should have a dialog about what to do about them.
 
Old 06-16-2020, 08:59 AM
 
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John Oliver has it covered at 9:00


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J5b_-TZwQ0I
 
Old 06-16-2020, 09:01 AM
 
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https://www.catholics4trump.com/the-...ILusiwtgqKMp7U

"If you’ve been on social media lately, you have seen the left’s organized propaganda campaign regarding the supposedly nefarious reasons behind the erection of Confederate monuments in the past. In the bizarre mind of the left, who see all of American history only through the prisms of racism, sexism, bigotry, and homophobia, the only reason Southerners of the past put up statues honoring Confederate generals was to send a secret and subtle hidden racist message of white supremacy that would last into the future. We are actually surprised they aren’t claiming that Richard Spencer got in a time machine and put up the monuments himself, as there is as much proof of that as there is of their current theory."

Now for the rest of the story. Amazing how they could video tape the actual people who fought in the war and get their thoughts and attitudes from that time. They were trying to make peace, so sad people now are trying to dig up old resentments to fight over again.
There was nothing subtle about Confederate statues being erected. They were monuments to those who fought for the cause that was, keeping slavery. It was about White supremacy. This has nothing to do with social media. This is stuff alot of Black people have thought for ages. And no, Black people aren't brainwashed. Many people just weren't listening. I'm happy that Confederate statues are being torn down. Confederates don't deserve to be honored.
 
Old 06-16-2020, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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Putting up statues of confederate generals and known KKK founder in a city center is not a subtle message.

Renaming bridges and schools to confederate generals and KKK members in the 1930’s - 1950’s was not a subtle message.

I’m waiting on the subtle part your referring too.
The monuments were put up as a way to restore southern pride and identity. The civil war demoralized the south, and the monuments were put up as a source of pride and remembering southern history.

Believe it or not, racism had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Looking at 100 years ago through a modern, biased, leftwing lense will only cloud your understanding of actual history. People back then did not think like people do today.
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