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The monuments were put up as a way to restore southern pride and identity. The civil war demoralized the south, and the monuments were put up as a source of pride and remembering southern history.
Believe it or not, racism had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Looking at 100 years ago through a modern, biased, leftwing lens will only cloud your understanding of actual history. People back then did not think like people do today.
My family fought to defend against invaders. We owned no slaves. We honor our ancestors, they are our heroes.
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These leftist TV hosts know absolutely nothing about actual history.
Less than 3% of southern whites owned slaves -- slave owners were typically wealthy.
The majority of average, white southern farmers were disenfranchised by the slave trade. They were forced to compete against wealthy plantation owners who owned many slaves and could outproduce and sell their crops at lower prices than the average or poor white southern farmers. The vast majority of southern whites were probably against slavery because of the negative economic impact it had on many of them.
I'm from Florida, we were called Crackers. We could not afford horses, we cracked whips to herd Cattle. Jacksonville used to be called Cowford.
The war is over the south lost they don't get to put up memorials to their hero's. Most of them went up during the periods where whites were asserting their authority over blacks along with Jim Crow laws, the KKK, the Lost Cause and the rest of the Chivalry & Magnolias bunk. Racism and the message of who was in charge had everything to do with it and that through 19th century or 20th century eyes.
100 years ago lynching's were rampant, the Klan marches thousands strong down Pennsylvania Ave, blacks were relegated to 2nd class status and you say "racism had absolutely nothing to do with it."
Yeah right...
Welcome to Gaslighting 101. Said persons are flat out lying. The idea is to make individuals such as you and me feel stupid for being against Confederates. Slavery was a huge part of why the South wanted secession, and was willing to fight a war for it. The Jim Crow laws were about legally enforced racial segregation. It was about restoring the slavery-based racial social hierarchy. It was about relegating Blacks to 2nd class status. Race had a lion's share to do with why the South wanted secession. It had alot to do with how it operated up through the 1960s. To say otherwise is a lie. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
I like this one just fine. My German and Swedish ancestors thought it was a good idea to come here, and I have no desire to go back.
One of the things I like about this country is that it IS capable of confronting its past and vowing to do better at living up to its ideals.
Then stop attacking monuments and historical figures. You don't know this country's ideals. I think people of the past and those who been here for many generations and near its beginnings understand the country's ideals and its past a lot better than people who think like you do.
The war is over the south lost they don't get to put up memorials to their hero's.
It's a free country, and the people of those states can put up whatever memorials they wish to put up.
Whether you like it or not is irrelevant. I don't like the fact that Seattle has a Lenin monument, but I'm not going to go vandalize it or tear it down just because I don't like it.
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Most of them went up during the periods where whites were asserting their authority over blacks along with Jim Crow laws, the KKK, the Lost Cause and the rest of the Chivalry & Magnolias bunk. Racism and the message of who was in charge had everything to do with it and that through 19th century or 20th century eyes.
"Racism" is a made up word that only appeared around the 1930s.
As stated before, Black folks and White folks were very different from the other so naturally a dynamic was created to separate the two into different societies. This still goes on today but it is voluntary.
It's not racism so much as it's two very different groups of people, different racial sub-groups with different cultures, different behavior, different body language, different athletics, different cognitive abilities, who cannot totally "jive together" because they're not the same, they're just too different genetically, behaviorally, cognitively, etc.
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100 years ago lynching's were rampant, the Klan marches thousands strong down Pennsylvania Ave, blacks were relegated to 2nd class status and you say "racism had absolutely nothing to do with it."
Yeah right...
There are more blacks murdered by other blacks each year in the U.S. than ALL of the blacks that were ever lynched in all of American history. Think about that for a moment.
Then stop attacking monuments and historical figures. You don't know this country's ideals. I think people of the past and those who been here for many generations and near its beginnings understand the country's ideals and its past a lot better than people who think like you do.
Hoo boy.
Exactly what do you think the American Revolution was about, if not iconoclasm? (Well, besides mercantilism, of course.)
Not at all. I think plenty of white people are anti-American and anti-white and not really pro-black. They're leftist.
Destroying history is about as anti-intellectual and ignorant as can be.
Only fools or terrorists attempt to demolish history and monuments.
The act of tearing down and destroying monuments is definitely anti-American and is similar to what Bolshevik communists, Nazis, and ISIS terrorists have done.
The monuments were put up as a way to restore southern pride and identity. The civil war demoralized the south, and the monuments were put up as a source of pride and remembering southern history.
Believe it or not, racism had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Looking at 100 years ago through a modern, biased, leftwing lense will only cloud your understanding of actual history. People back then did not think like people do today.
It certainly had to do with keeping slavery legal in the south. Was that not racism to you?
Destroying history is about as anti-intellectual and ignorant as can be.
Only fools or terrorists attempt to demolish history and monuments.
The act of tearing down and destroying monuments is definitely anti-American and is similar to what Bolshevik communists, Nazis, and ISIS terrorists have done.
They are far left, neo-Soviets along with black supremacists, which the media labels as "anti-racist" protestors.
Remember when patriotic American counter protesters tried defending a monument violently being torn down and the media falsely labeled them "White supremacists" and even "neo-nazis"? Then the democrat controlled local police allowed leftist to attack them and justice system persecuted and prosecuted the counter-protestors for defending themselves.
This probably the reason why there's no counter protesting of the antifa and BLM rioters destroying monuments. They'll be prosecuted by democrat controlled police and justice system, the media will falsely label them far right, white supremacists and their employers will fire them and libel and slander them as racist. This is a systemically racist country now but not in the way being claimed.
It certainly had to do with keeping slavery legal in the south. Was that not racism to you?
The Articles of Secession details how much the desire to keep Black people enslaved and in a position of subservience was a big part of their cause. The Confederates feared that the rest of the USA might abolish slavery nationwide. Race was a big part of it. Southerners living back then admitted such.
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