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Old 07-04-2020, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think a lot of these restaurants were hurting for business anyway. Not as many people have been choosing to dine out lately.

 
Old 07-04-2020, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn View Post
Seniors are his base.... and they are reliable voters.
Right now Trump is behind in Florida but it’s July, Trump is running against the virus and so far it’s not even close.
 
Old 07-04-2020, 09:51 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by Variable View Post
That's not a maks mandate from the Florida Gov. He suggests it. Half the people in Florida don't wear masks because it's not mandated. The Florida Gov doesn't have the guts to mandate masks. Maybe he'll eventually change his mind. The economic impact to Florida is devastating. Sounds like he might be inching closer to a mask mandate. Let's hope.
It'd be really strange if Florida has to go into lockdown in another month, while other cities have already opened up and covid is more or less behind them.


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Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
I think a lot of these restaurants were hurting for business anyway. Not as many people have been choosing to dine out lately.
Just think how bad it will be for business when they are forced to lockdown the state in a month and go through what every other state has been going through since March.


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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
While Florida sees another record in daily COVID-19 cases (11,458), hospitalizations have steadily risen over past month

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronav...2yi-story.html

The increases have also been measured in the more serious manifestations of COVID-19 in the state. Since Thursday, the state has reported 965 new hospitalizations for people with coronavirus. Exactly a month earlier, a three-day period had fewer than half that many admissions (429).
That number is just mind boggling. Not even nyc had that many infections in one day, at their height.
 
Old 07-05-2020, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Right now Trump is behind in Florida but it’s July, Trump is running against the virus and so far it’s not even close.
A lot of Trump voters are "closet" voters... not all of them, but the ones that know he's right but can't bring themselves to say it out loud.

The 'then' candidate Trump was 17 pts behind the "woods walker". What does that tell you?
 
Old 07-05-2020, 10:59 AM
 
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Some hospitals in Texas are hitting 100% capacity.
As Coronavirus Slams Houston Hospitals, It’s Like New York ‘All Over Again’
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/u...gtype=Homepage

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Over the past week, Dr. Aric Bakshy, an emergency physician at Houston Methodist, had to decide which coronavirus patients he should admit to the increasingly busy hospital and which he could safely send home.

As Houston’s hospitals face the worst outbreak of the virus in Texas, now one of the nation’s hot zones, Dr. Bakshy and others are experiencing some of the same challenges that their New York counterparts did just a few months ago and are trying to adapt some lessons from that crisis.
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Like New York City in March, the Houston hospitals are experiencing a steep rise in caseloads that is filling their beds, stretching their staffing, creating a backlog in testing and limiting the availability of other medical services. Attempts to buy more supplies — including certain protective gear, vital-sign monitors and testing components — are frustrated by weeks of delays, according to hospital leaders.
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But with the virus raging across the region, medical workers are falling ill.
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Methodist, a top-ranked system of eight hospitals, had nearly 400 coronavirus inpatients last Sunday. Nearly a week later — even as physicians tried to be conservative in admitting patients and discharged others as soon as they safely could — the figure was 575. The flagship hospital added 130 inpatient beds in recent days and rapidly filled them. Now, administrators estimate that the number of Covid-19 patients across the system could reach 800 or 900 in coming weeks, and are planning to accommodate up to 1,000.
 
Old 07-05-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Let me put this in persepective for you all:

New York has 24,000 dead as of July 3rd

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Florida 3,731, Texas 2,648 as of today....July 5th

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Cases do not mean squat because such a low % of cases die. Deaths should be the focal point, not cases.

As young people return to work, employers are requiring tests, and this is why cases are spiking...more test of asymptomatic employees returning to work,and being required to get tests beforehand.

Employers are also taking temps daily upon arrival to work, & if elevated temp, employes must go get tested.

So, we have a spike in cases because we have a spike in tests...of younger asymptomatic workers.

This is not like we had earlier where older Americians had symptoms, went into a hospital, tested positive, then had to fight for theri lives.

This is a whole new deal...and much less lethal.

Its nearly a non-event, its being OVERBLOWN by the media who is trying to sell advertising...ignore it.
 
Old 07-05-2020, 01:00 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus View Post
Let me put this in persepective for you all:

New York has 24,000 dead as of July 3rd

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Florida 3,731, Texas 2,648 as of today....July 5th

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Cases do not mean squat because such a low % of cases die. Deaths should be the focal point, not cases.

As young people return to work, employers are reqiring tests, and this is why cases are spiking...more test of asymptomatic employees returning to work,and being required to get tests beforehand.

Employers are also taking temps daily upon arrival to work, & if elevated temp, employes must go get tested.

So, we have a spike in cases because we have a spike in tests...of younger asymptomatic workers.

This is not like we had earlier where older Americians had symptoms, went into a hospital, tested positive, then had to fight for theri lives.

This is a whole new deal...and uch less lethal.

Its nearly a non-event, its being OVERBLOWN by the media who is trying to sell advertising...ignore it.
Well, it's ALSO being overblown by the usual left wing partisans on C-D. They feel they need to advance their agenda.
 
Old 07-05-2020, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus View Post
Let me put this in persepective for you all:

New York has 24,000 dead as of July 3rd

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Florida 3,731, Texas 2,648 as of today....July 5th

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Cases do not mean squat because such a low % of cases die. Deaths should be the focal point, not cases.

As young people return to work, employers are requiring tests, and this is why cases are spiking...more test of asymptomatic employees returning to work,and being required to get tests beforehand.

Employers are also taking temps daily upon arrival to work, & if elevated temp, employes must go get tested.

So, we have a spike in cases because we have a spike in tests...of younger asymptomatic workers.

This is not like we had earlier where older Americians had symptoms, went into a hospital, tested positive, then had to fight for theri lives.

This is a whole new deal...and much less lethal.

Its nearly a non-event, its being OVERBLOWN by the media who is trying to sell advertising...ignore it.
The increase in cases is not testing alone, as those testing positive are up at a higher rate. Week ending 6/7 in Florida 4.34% tested positive, has gone up every week since and was 11.98% for ending 6/28 (updated data should be released in the next couple days and is trending upward)

Positive cases are increasing at a higher rate than testing is. Cases over a 7 day average have almost tripled in Florida over the last two weeks, testing hasn't gone up by that same level. Hospitalizations over the last 7 days in Florida are higher than they have been Deaths, thankfully are not seeing the same uptick, and likely won't see the levels we had previously seen due to the impacts of a younger and generally healthier population. However, deaths are a lagging indicator and it is too early to tell if deaths will spike or not.
 
Old 07-05-2020, 01:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus View Post
Let me put this in persepective for you all:

New York has 24,000 dead as of July 3rd

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Florida 3,731, Texas 2,648 as of today....July 5th

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Cases do not mean squat because such a low % of cases die. Deaths should be the focal point, not cases.

As young people return to work, employers are requiring tests, and this is why cases are spiking...more test of asymptomatic employees returning to work,and being required to get tests beforehand.

Employers are also taking temps daily upon arrival to work, & if elevated temp, employes must go get tested.

So, we have a spike in cases because we have a spike in tests...of younger asymptomatic workers.

This is not like we had earlier where older Americians had symptoms, went into a hospital, tested positive, then had to fight for theri lives.

This is a whole new deal...and much less lethal.

Its nearly a non-event, its being OVERBLOWN by the media who is trying to sell advertising...ignore it.
I guess in addition to requiring tests, employers are requiring workers to get hospitalized, lol.
 
Old 07-05-2020, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
57,315 posts, read 26,217,746 times
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Originally Posted by beach43ofus View Post
Let me put this in persepective for you all:

New York has 24,000 dead as of July 3rd

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Florida 3,731, Texas 2,648 as of today....July 5th

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ver-could.html

Cases do not mean squat because such a low % of cases die. Deaths should be the focal point, not cases.

As young people return to work, employers are requiring tests, and this is why cases are spiking...more test of asymptomatic employees returning to work,and being required to get tests beforehand.

Employers are also taking temps daily upon arrival to work, & if elevated temp, employes must go get tested.

So, we have a spike in cases because we have a spike in tests...of younger asymptomatic workers.

This is not like we had earlier where older Americians had symptoms, went into a hospital, tested positive, then had to fight for theri lives.

This is a whole new deal...and much less lethal.

Its nearly a non-event, its being OVERBLOWN by the media who is trying to sell advertising...ignore it.

New cases along with increased hospitalizations and percent testing positive are prime indicators that we are failing. Younger patients are testing positive in greater numbers and there is increased possibility that they will in turn spread the disease to older citizens.

Better medical practices from experience has led to lower mortality but with massive infections there will most likely be increased mortality.

We are failing in new infections compared to other countries, this is why the hospitals are being overwhelmed in these states. The entire point was to keep this at a manageable level.

I have yet to hear one health expert claim that any of this is being over blown and that new infections are irrelevant so I a will count that as personal opinion.

Look at this graph of the 7 day moving average comparing the US to Europe going back to March.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...6D&FORM=WRVORC

Last edited by Goodnight; 07-05-2020 at 01:38 PM..
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