More racist to say Black Lives Matter or All Lives Matter (drug, suspect)
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The poll here reflects what you know it reflects.
That this sub forum is full of Trump voters because people like me have stopped posting and visiting the forum regularly for reasons I'm not allowed to talk about. This forum is a bubble and safe haven for Trump supporters. None of the polls here are a true reflection of anything. I havent even voted in the poll.
It's a shame. Like Fox News, msnbc and any news outlet you care to name, and the rest of the media including facebook, everyone is only ever seeing one side of any story.
It's particularly sad to have happened in a country where free speech was once considered paramount.
America has always been slow to change. Sadly in these times of division I'm afraid change is even slower.
i.e. This isn't about Black Lives. It's about hating on Trump and his supporters. You just proved it.
Thank you. But we already knew this. BLM is nothing but a scam. You just accused 63,000,000+ of your fellow Americans as being racist. You proved my point.
And if you guys want to shroud yourself in the scarves of self-righteousness, then you just another hate group. And not a very good one at that.
i.e. This isn't about Black Lives. It's about hating on Trump and his supporters. You just proved it.
Thank you. But we already knew this. BLM is nothing but a scam. You just accused 63,000,000+ of your fellow Americans as being racist. You proved my point.
And if you guys want to shroud yourself in the scarves of self-righteousness, then you just another hate group. And not a very good one at that.
Absolutely ridiculous..
Read my post again, then read it again then read it some more.
While you're doing it try to comprehend it.
I never once accused any Trump supporter of being racist. I dont even know where you're getting that from.
I never used any term of hate against Trump supporters.
You made that all up in your own head. Says everything about you.
Your response has nothing to do with anything I said. It's entirely detached, like you're responding to someone else's post.
Originally Posted by Cruithne
The poll here reflects what you know it reflects.
That this sub forum is full of Trump voters because people like me have stopped posting and visiting the forum regularly for reasons I'm not allowed to talk about. This forum is a bubble and safe haven for Trump supporters. None of the polls here are a true reflection of anything. I havent even voted in the poll.
It's a shame. Like Fox News, msnbc and any news outlet you care to name, and the rest of the media including facebook, everyone is only ever seeing one side of any story.
It's particularly sad to have happened in a country where free speech was once considered paramount.
America has always been slow to change. Sadly in these times of division I'm afraid change is even slower.
I didn't vote in this poll either.
There are plenty of anti Trumpers who post here. No doubt plenty of Trump supporters no longer post here either for reasons I can't mention. Polls are just that. Opinions of those who are polled. CNN polls are skewed to their leftist viewer as is MSNBC, NYT etc. The 2016 Presidential winner projection is a testament to that.
Yes, free speech is being squelched by TWITTER, YouTube etc by those who label conservative opinion as hate speech. Convenient ain't it? Sad that when a conservative is offended by leftist hate speech it's not banned or removed from social media.
Both are true and are not racist without certain intent behind it.
This is true about almost everything people say is racist including flags, names, and songs. But our current society encourages people to attach racism to everything they don't agree with.
DO you think it's more racist to say Black Lives matter or All Lives Matter and why?
It's obviously more racist to say black lives matter than to say that all lives matter, taking the statements at FACE VALUE. The problem is our culture's, America, use of language, often relying on context to fill in the blanks for what is said or not said.
For example "Love you". What does that mean? Are you telling a person to love themselves or that you love them? You can't really tell without the context of the conversation, which would then make it clear.
What people have done, PURPOSELY, it take "Black lives matter" out of its context in an attempt to smear and discredit the suggestion or movement. Clearly the intent of BLM was "Black Lives Matter TOO". That is a hard statement to discredit or to be against....without admitting or exposing that you are racist. However, in an America hell bent on deflecting and denying racism, they have to discredit the message of BLM and one way of doing that is by suggesting that it is saying that other lives matter less than blacks and hence "All lives matter".
It's like how they turned the kneeling by football players as a disrespect for our troops, the flag and the national anthem. It's an attempt to put blacks on the defensive instead of white racism. When blacks accuse whites or this society of something they are doing wrong against blacks....that has to be flipped to put blacks on the defensive. You see that all the time. The "victim mentality" is another popular reaction. Put blacks on the defensive for pointing out how racism has impacted blacks. Blacks have to be made UNCOMFORTABLE when they bring charges against whites or this society. Blacks have to be put on the defensive.
All lives matter has NEVER been true in our history past or present. The life of a criminal, then, matters. Why then are all these police shootings and killings justified on the bases of the person having a criminal background....if ALL LIVES MATTER (equally. Which is implicit). All lives don't matter equally in America and never have. In hospitals during the virus....if there were not enough ventilators, unfortunately the life of an 90 year old would be valued less than the life of a 30 year old in determining who gets the scarce resource treatment.
All Lives matter is a BS statement with no meaning and purpose other than to discredit and put on the defensive the BLM movement.
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It's obviously more racist to say black lives matter than to say that all lives matter, taking the statements as FACE VALUE. The problem is our culture's, America, use of language, often relying on context to fill in the blanks for what is said or not said.
For example "Love you". What does that mean? Are you telling a person to love themselves or that you love them? You can't really tell without the context of the conversation, which would then make it clear.
What people have done, PURPOSELY, it take "Black lives matter" out of its context in an attempt to smear and discredit the suggestion or movement. Clearly the intent of BLM was "Black Lives Matter TOO". That is a hard statement to discredit or to be against....without admitting or exposing that you are racist. However, in an America hell bent on deflecting and deny racism, they have to discredit the message of BLM and one way of doing that is by suggesting that it is saying that other lives matter less than blacks and hence "All lives matter".
It's like how they turned the kneeling by football players as a disrespect for our troops, the flag and the national anthem. It's an attempt to put blacks on the defensive instead of white racism. When blacks accuse whites or this society of something they are doing wrong against blacks....that has to be flipped to put blacks on the defensive. You see that all the time. The "victim mentality" is another popular reaction. Put blacks on the defensive for pointing out how racism has impacted blacks. Blacks have to be made UNCOMFORTABLE when they bring charges against whites or this society. Blacks have to be put on the defensive.
All lives matter has NEVER been true in our history past or present. The life of a criminal, then, matters. Why then are all these police shootings and killings justified on the bases of the person having a criminal background....if ALL LIVES MATTER (equally. Which is implicit). All lives don't matter equally in America and never have. In hospitals during the virus....if there were not enough ventilators, unfortunately the life of an 90 year old would be valued less than the life of a 30 year old in determining who gets the scarce resource treatment.
All Lives matter is a BS statement with no meaning and purpose other than to discredit and put on the defensive the BLM movement.
That's just it the context of black lives matter makes it worse than the phrase, rioting, burning, looting, assaulting and killing and destroying historic monuments, and on and on all in the name of a few dead criminals. White people have their own dead criminals and numerically more of them, but no black or white person is outraged for them. This is about the stupidest political contrivances and hoax the democrats have came up with yet.
The thing with BLM is they seem to trigger white supremacist and their sympathizers. The vast majority of the people against BLM are racists. They are the same type of people that were against Martin Luther King Jr. during his fight for civil rights in the 60s.
The thing with BLM is they seem to trigger white supremacist and their sympathizers. The vast majority of the people against BLM are racists. They are the same type of people that were against Martin Luther King Jr. during his fight for civil rights in the 60s.
I think the vast majority of people for BLM including white are racist. You don't have to be racist to be for or against it, but you do have to be uninformed, misinformed or dishonest and acting in bad faith to be.
That's just it the context of black lives matter makes it worse than the phrase, rioting, burning, looting, assaulting and killing and destroying historic monuments, and on and on all in the name of a few dead criminals. White people have their own dead criminals and numerically more of them, but no black or white person is outraged for them. This is about the stupidest political contrivances and hoax the democrats have came up with yet.
Nope. Again, you are putting it in a different context, not its original. The context, in general, is a nation that has historically shown that black lives are valued less and, specifically, that police did not value and treat black lives the same as white lives.
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