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So does eliminating "qualified immunity" also apply to other government workers and elected officials? Or do they only discriminate against police?
That's the thing !!!
Why should politicians have immunity or even the exemptions from the laws they get, from laws they pass !!!
If the ones involved in passing this law were putting the same limitations on themselves I might be more swayed !!! I don't see that happening !!! How many times have we heard from the politicians no one is above the law and yet they are !!!
Why should politicians have immunity or even the exemptions from the laws they get, from laws they pass !!!
If the ones involved in passing this law were putting the same limitations on themselves I might be more swayed !!! I don't see that happening !!! How many times have we heard from the politicians no one is above the law and yet they are !!!
They shouldn't. If, for example, they pass laws that cause the deaths of innocent people-they should be held responsible and accountable. If for example they release violent criminals from prison and those criminals hurt or kill anyone-the lawmakers should be held accountable. If an elected official or bureaucrat mandates that a nursing home takes a Covid-positive patient and people, particularly thousands of people, die because of it-they should be held responsible for murder. If judges refuse to sentence criminals to maximum sentences-any crimes they commit after their release and before the end of that time is on the judge. If elected officials "defund the police" and innocent people needlessly die-they should be held accountable. If people's property is destroyed because elected officials refuse to let police due their job and allow criminals to riot and loot-they should be personally responsible.
They shouldn't. If, for example, they pass laws that cause the deaths of innocent people-they should be held responsible and accountable. If for example they release violent criminals from prison and those criminals hurt or kill anyone-the lawmakers should be held accountable. If an elected official or bureaucrat mandates that a nursing home takes a Covid-positive patient and people, particularly thousands of people, die because of it-they should be held responsible for murder. If judges refuse to sentence criminals to maximum sentences-any crimes they commit after their release and before the end of that time is on the judge. If elected officials "defund the police" and innocent people needlessly die-they should be held accountable. If people's property is destroyed because elected officials refuse to let police due their job and allow criminals to riot and loot-they should be personally responsible.
That's my opinion on it too !!!
And if they are not, as Mayor on up to Governor, going to provide the police protection citizens pay for they need to be accountable with consequences just like the cops they threw under the bus !!! Including giving up their own police protection citizens pay for !!! They can hire their own security on their own dime !!! They need to be accountable at the same standard they apply to everyone else !!!
So if a big city cop (LA, Chitown, NYC, etc) works for 20 years, he has... ....let's say..... 20-30 opportunities (that is a very conservative estimate) to make split -second decision during his 20 years.
He has to make the right decision EVERY SINGLE TIME. If not, he will faces certain death, prison, or lawsuits?
"BE PERFECT OR BE DEAD"
I am sure that will be a good recruitment catch.
Brain or heart surgeon has to make the right decision EVERY SINGLE TIME in a split second. If not, he will faces certain death, prison, or lawsuits?
"BE PERFECT OR BE DEAD"
I am sure that will be a good recruitment catch.
Oh, wait, it is.
On a non-sarcastic note - yes, if my life depends on somebody else I want that somebody to be perfect.
Don't think you can be perfect? Don't take the job - it is that simple, isn't it?
Or you really want to have a decent paying job when you literally decides who lives and who not and be in no way responsible? Chutzpah in it's classic form.
Another one here who NEVER agrees wit you but agrees here. Cops will just carry insurance like other have to do. Next, lets get rid of Police Unions and all public sector unions who work against the citizens that pay them.
They shouldn't. If, for example, they pass laws that cause the deaths of innocent people-they should be held responsible and accountable. If for example they release violent criminals from prison and those criminals hurt or kill anyone-the lawmakers should be held accountable. If an elected official or bureaucrat mandates that a nursing home takes a Covid-positive patient and people, particularly thousands of people, die because of it-they should be held responsible for murder. If judges refuse to sentence criminals to maximum sentences-any crimes they commit after their release and before the end of that time is on the judge. If elected officials "defund the police" and innocent people needlessly die-they should be held accountable. If people's property is destroyed because elected officials refuse to let police due their job and allow criminals to riot and loot-they should be personally responsible.
Agree on the above, with the following additions:
If judge sends an innocent to a prison - he should be send to the same prison for the same term.
If cop kills innocent - he should be killed to.
If doctor makes avoidable mistake (i.e. malpractice) - he should receive the same treatment.
Eye-for-eye. Ancient and the most honest and effective principle.
And no insurance should ever be available for any of the above. When you are dead from somebody's mistake, you don't need any money.
Brain or heart surgeon has to make the right decision EVERY SINGLE TIME in a split second. If not, he will faces certain death, prison, or lawsuits?
"BE PERFECT OR BE DEAD"
I am sure that will be a good recruitment catch.
Oh, wait, it is.
On a non-sarcastic note - yes, if my life depends on somebody else I want that somebody to be perfect.
Don't think you can be perfect? Don't take the job - it is that simple, isn't it?
Or you really want to have a decent paying job when you literally decides who lives and who not and be in no way responsible? Chutzpah in it's classic form.
So you are saying brain surgeons and cops have YOUR life in their hands and they can take it away at will? I agree. Then how come one job makes 50k/year and the other job makes 200k/year?
Also, I didn’t know brain surgeon faces certain death if they ****ed up. Do they get ambushed or assassinated if they ****ed up? The only time brain surgeon or doctor faces prison is when they are in complete negligence and without any regard for their patient. If it’s a medical mishap without negligence, then their malpractice insurance is going to cover that.
If a cop ****ed up, he has two really ****ty options for a job making 50k/year
a) go to prison cause he reacts too fast
b) he gets shot cause he hesitates and not react fast enough
If a brain surgeon ****ed up , he also has 2 options
a) go to prison cause he is negligence
b) I am sorry we are unable to save your loved one because she passed away before we can get to her
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