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Old 06-25-2020, 09:18 PM
 
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by thecoalman View Post
They will just utilize encryption without backdoors, at most you will cause them some very minor inconvenience. Encryption is widely available from numerous sources including those way outside of US jurisdiction. Open source guarantees there is no backdoor. This would be akin to banning guns, the only people it affects are law abiding citizens.



https://www.openpgp.org/


https://www.veracrypt.fr/en/Home.html
Excerpt: This would be akin to banning guns.

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The day encryption can physically install a battery into my phone or over ride my on/off switch is the day I stop using
public communications and go underground. Where the heck is that old ham radio again...Got to brush up on some old Morse
Code..............been a while... where is that old 1000 watt linear? ..............been using as a foot warmer...
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Old 06-25-2020, 09:23 PM
 
Location: NY
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If our Senate had it's way we would be the 'Soviet Union of the United States of America'.
All I can say is....VOTE.
Excerpt: If our Senate had it's way we would be the 'Soviet Union of the United States of America'.
Response: Disagree down to the marrow in my bones.... The Senate under President Trump is keeping
us from becoming another South America. His encryption policies work to infiltrate very bad bad people...
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Old 06-25-2020, 09:26 PM
 
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Hope Apple holds firm and never gives in to giving government a door

My Data is my data.
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Old 06-25-2020, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Excerpt: Are you a Republican/conservative?

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I was a Democrat as a young adult, Republican as a working adult and now a Conservative as an old and retired adult.
So you believe the government has a right to mandate how private companies run their business?
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Old 06-25-2020, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Hope Apple holds firm and never gives in to giving government a door

My Data is my data.
It's all a dog & pony show. They already have everything.
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Old 06-26-2020, 07:24 AM
 
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Proposed bill. If passed, will face constitutional challenges. After that if it's still around it's required to have a warrant.

So, tell us specifically and with reason how this is unAmerican without just throwing out catch-phrases and hysteronics.
oh I dunno... that somehow huawei of having backdoors (allegedly) is a bad thing but now we're pressuring tech companies to do the same?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/u...back-door.html

what's good for the goose is good for the gander though, amirite?
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Old 06-26-2020, 07:25 AM
 
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I hope Google threatens another strike. It's funny to watch the power a major corporation has over our government full of greedy sociopaths.
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Old 06-26-2020, 07:28 AM
 
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The countries like China don't need back doors for most criminal cases.
You can crack the encryption on most anything if you have the person with the password. Guess how?

In the US if we catch the head of a large child porn operation and they have their distribution list encrypted we can't just torture them until they give up the password. (But only because it's a criminal matter and not CIA stuff...in which case we ship them to Turkey and outsource that um...process.)
yeah, that CIA waterboarding scandal was nothing more than a hoax.

and if they're dead, then what?

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Old 06-26-2020, 08:08 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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The only "safe" way to make this happen is via key escrow, stored offline. Otherwise, if the legal services have a back door, it's only a matter of time before the crooks do too. Make the legal services go through a secure process to obtain each key and require human intervention to make it work.
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Old 06-26-2020, 09:11 AM
 
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The only "safe" way to make this happen is via key escrow, stored offline. Otherwise, if the legal services have a back door, it's only a matter of time before the crooks do too. Make the legal services go through a secure process to obtain each key and require human intervention to make it work.

If you have a key floating around it's by default no longer secure. Large companies guard those keys like they are gold, literally.

At the end of the day you have merely inconvenienced the people you are targeting.
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