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Old 06-25-2020, 10:51 AM
 
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A trio of Republican senators have submitted a bill that seeks to bring an end to “warrant-proof” encryption. If it passes into law as is, the Lawful Access to Encrypted Data Act would compel “device manufacturers and service providers” to help law enforcement access encrypted data if that would help them carry out a warrant.

that doesn't sound very american
sounds like something another gov't from another country would do... hmm.
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Old 06-25-2020, 10:57 AM
 
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No one, I mean no one at all, should be surprised by such things.

But if one person, even the manufacturer, can break the encryption, that means anyone can, which sort of makes it a moot point to sell a product using its encryption as a selling point.

Sort of like selling an unpickable lock, but then reality is they can assist the police in picking it after all.
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Old 06-25-2020, 10:59 AM
 
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The "Let's Make Everything Hackable Act" by our government, Anonymous, China, etc.
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Old 06-25-2020, 10:59 AM
 
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No one, I mean no one at all, should be surprised by such things.

But if one person, even the manufacturer, can break the encryption, that means anyone can, which sort of makes it a moot point to sell a product using its encryption as a selling point.

Sort of like selling an unpickable lock, but then reality is they can assist the police in picking it after all.
i'm not even sure how this technically works in the world of PKI. there's a key pair that's mathematically linked. without the private key, you can't decrypt data encrypted with the public key (other than using brute force), and the owner holds the private key so...
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:06 AM
 
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i'm not even sure how this technically works in the world of PKI. there's a key pair that's mathematically linked. without the private key, you can't decrypt data encrypted with the public key (other than using brute force), and the owner holds the private key so...
Yes, exactly, hence why this would turn into a backdoor thing, one of which obviously will have to have much lower security, thus hackable by any interested party.
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:14 AM
 
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Yes, exactly, hence why this would turn into a backdoor thing, one of which obviously will have to have much lower security, thus hackable by any interested party.
right. once again, I think this is one of those things where old, clueless people are butting their heads into things they have absolutely no understanding of - like the zuckerberg senate hearings.

we have ignorant politicians trying to dictate policies pertaining to technology, science, healthcare, etc. it only makes the situation worse.
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:19 AM
 
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Republicans...who's surprised.
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:20 AM
 
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Our government does not like privacy unless it’s something they did
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:25 AM
 
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I have a feeling this govt decided to give all possible chances to China et al to mock US non-stop.
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:30 AM
 
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i'm not even sure how this technically works in the world of PKI. there's a key pair that's mathematically linked. without the private key, you can't decrypt data encrypted with the public key (other than using brute force), and the owner holds the private key so...
I would presume they would integrate it into a phones hardware, TPM on PC's etc. They would never be able to stop software distribution of encryption applications but they could certainly target hardware manufacturers that make it easy to use.

End result is criminals, terrorists or others engaging in illegal activity simply use software only based solutions that are not as convenient.
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