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Old 07-08-2020, 05:53 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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This CV-19 is just getting started, six months in; real numbers show 150 thousand dead in the US as of today. It’s warm in the Northern Hemisphere now, not so this winter. It’s going to kill millions of people worldwide, realistic models show 1.5 to 2 million deaths in the US over the next five years. It’s all statistics until it happens to you or someone you know.

And there will be no vaccine for years. Culturally, it’s now every man for himself. If you get sick, don’t infect someone else.
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Old 07-08-2020, 05:55 AM
 
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Haven't seen that fact in any factual way. Just reporting by the MSM which can't be trusted. I have the raw data on my side.
Dozens of hospitals in Florida have run out of space in their intensive care units. Many in Arizona and Texas are swiftly approaching full capacity for ICU beds. This out of the mouths of hospital executives and the public health professionals in those states.

Focusing on a single raw data point of fatalities, as many are doing ( as well as this poster's inaccurate understanding of ICU beds) may lead to a misguided sense of complacency.

The decline of deaths can be partially attributed to the fact that more young people are getting sick, and they generally tend to be healthier — but according to our nation's foremost epidemiologist “ that doesn’t mean that you could not get seriously ill.”

The exploding rate of cases, hospitalizations and filled ICU beds is a grave problem and our nation remains under serious threat by this virus that is causing a very real public health, national security and economic crisis.

There are no "sides" to this, dear. We Americans are in this together. I ask again, why do you routinely post disinformation and baseless opinions and downplay this very serious pandemic?
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Old 07-08-2020, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Dozens of hospitals in Florida have run out of space in their intensive care units. Many in Arizona and Texas are swiftly approaching full capacity for ICU beds. This out of the mouths of hospital executives and the public health professionals in those states.

Focusing on a single raw data point of fatalities, as many are doing ( as well as this poster's inaccurate understanding of ICU beds) may lead to a misguided sense of complacency.

The decline of deaths can be partially attributed to the fact that more young people are getting sick, and they generally tend to be healthier — but according to our nation's foremost epidemiologist “ that doesn’t mean that you could not get seriously ill.”

The exploding rate of cases, hospitalizations and filled ICU beds is a grave problem and our nation remains under serious threat by this virus that is causing a very real public health, national security and economic crisis.

There are no "sides" to this, dear. We Americans are in this together. I ask again, why do you routinely post disinformation and baseless opinions and downplay this very serious pandemic?
I saw the same type of things when NY was at our peak. People insisting hospitals weren't overrun. Most of them live hundreds or thousands of miles from here and knew nothing about it. I don't get why they're putting their heads in the sand. That's been this country's attitude from the day the feds found out and look where it's gotten us.
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Old 07-08-2020, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Dozens of hospitals in Florida have run out of space in their intensive care units. Many in Arizona and Texas are swiftly approaching full capacity for ICU beds. This out of the mouths of hospital executives and the public health professionals in those states.

Focusing on a single raw data point of fatalities, as many are doing ( as well as this poster's inaccurate understanding of ICU beds) may lead to a misguided sense of complacency.

The decline of deaths can be partially attributed to the fact that more young people are getting sick, and they generally tend to be healthier — but according to our nation's foremost epidemiologist “ that doesn’t mean that you could not get seriously ill.”

The exploding rate of cases, hospitalizations and filled ICU beds is a grave problem and our nation remains under serious threat by this virus that is causing a very real public health, national security and economic crisis.

There are no "sides" to this, dear. We Americans are in this together. I ask again, why do you routinely post disinformation and baseless opinions and downplay this very serious pandemic?

The numbers are likely exponentially worse than anyone knows.

“Under pressure last week as COVID-19 hospitalizations soared in Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis’ office said the state would start reporting daily hospitalization data for all 67 counties.

DeSantis on Tuesday, however, refused to address the fact that the state has yet to make good on its promise when asked by a Miami Herald reporter.
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Florida is an outlier among states in not reporting the number of patients currently hospitalized with COVID-19, the highly infectious respiratory disease caused by the novel coronavirus.“
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...244048107.html
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Old 07-08-2020, 06:33 AM
 
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It's not 99% harmless
Over 250,000 people have been hospitalized because of the virus and half have died.


https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_co...spitalizations


I suppose to some being in a hospital and pulling out of it with or without long term complications was not "harmed" by the virus. We are about to find out what happens when hospital capacity fills up.

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Old 07-08-2020, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I suppose to some being in a hospital IC unit for weeks and pulling out of it with long term complications was not "harmed" by the virus.
We are still just learning about the long term effects also. It will take a long time until we have a full picture.
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Old 07-08-2020, 06:48 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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1.2% of 300 million is 3.6 million
Good time to be an undertaker, eh?
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:12 AM
 
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I've seen more statistics on here for the recovery rate than I can remember. Where are they all coming from? The death rate in the US is between 4 and 5 percent currently based on diagnosed cases and deaths. Any other number is pure speculation.
And doesn't fit their narrative. So let's just make up numbers!

One thing we do NOT know is what effects people have after recovery. Do they have lifelong respiratory problems? Are people that used to jog unable to do so? Are they now more susceptible to getting pneumonia now that they have lung damage?

There is more than just the death count...
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:23 AM
 
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How is that possible? There were around 10,000 new cases of the virus on on 7/7. Are you saying that almost all of them were hospitalized because of the virus? Please show your proof of that.

TMC in Houston has 446 covid hospitalizations on 7/7. They have 267 on 7/6. That's a decrease. Are you saying that the rest of the state is opposite of the Houston area?

The purpose of the original shutdown in March was to allow hospitals to prepare for an increase in covid patients. If they failed to do so, they are at fault.
No, of course not. That's the total number of hospital beds occupied by Covid patients on the particular day.

https://apps.texastribune.org/featur...080.1584730583

I don't know where are you getting your TMC numbers, but just the ICU patients exceed that

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-upda...and-occupancy/

They currently list 600 ICU Covid patients. Overall ICU phase 1 is completely full (by all types of patients, Covid is 45%), and they started filling up Phase 2.


They prepared for increase, in the example above, Phase 2 and 3 are not normal operation phases. The point is, the current rate of increase in hospitalizations is unsustainable
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:30 AM
 
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This CV-19 is just getting started, six months in; real numbers show 150 thousand dead in the US as of today. It’s warm in the Northern Hemisphere now, not so this winter. It’s going to kill millions of people worldwide, realistic models show 1.5 to 2 million deaths in the US over the next five years. It’s all statistics until it happens to you or someone you know.

And there will be no vaccine for years. Culturally, it’s now every man for himself. If you get sick, don’t infect someone else.

This virus doesn't appear to be seasonal. If it doesn't abate in the summer why would it strengthen in the winter? In fact, there are signs that, contrary to flu, this virus is stronger in the summer.
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