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Old 09-22-2023, 09:02 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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In time all white statues and monuments will be gone.
meh. they'll never disturb child rapist harvey milk's memorial and monument. he even got a navy ship named after him.
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Old 09-22-2023, 09:03 AM
 
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I don't know of any statues of Jefferson or Lincoln being 'torn down'.

Could it happen? Yes, anywhere, because it is a local matter and any city or town can move or replace or retire any public monument at all, but I haven't seen one news item for that so it must be rare.

As Sidney Powell has stated in a court filing “no reasonable person would conclude that [her] statements were truly statements of fact.” That's sort of where this is coming from.

Anyway, Jefferson and Lincoln are two honored heroes of mine, as for many people.

The thread is a sort of click bait, intended to arouse indignations so all the nutcases could feel justified in their hate for their fellows. It's the kind of thread a Chinese bot might produce to sow discord among us, or maybe some incel living in his mother's basement, or some hatemonger. It's not really meant to be taken seriously.
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Old 09-22-2023, 09:48 AM
 
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Yet, the lenin statue still stands in the most awesomeness seattle....




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin_(Seattle)
How it made its way there from what is now Slovakia is interesting.
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Old 09-22-2023, 10:29 AM
 
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I don't know of any statues of Jefferson or Lincoln being 'torn down'.

Could it happen? Yes, anywhere, because it is a local matter and any city or town can move or replace or retire any public monument at all, but I haven't seen one news item for that so it must be rare.

As Sidney Powell has stated in a court filing “no reasonable person would conclude that [her] statements were truly statements of fact.” That's sort of where this is coming from.

Anyway, Jefferson and Lincoln are two honored heroes of mine, as for many people.

The thread is a sort of click bait, intended to arouse indignations so all the nutcases could feel justified in their hate for their fellows. It's the kind of thread a Chinese bot might produce to sow discord among us, or maybe some incel living in his mother's basement, or some hatemonger. It's not really meant to be taken seriously.
your ignorance of events doesn't mean they didn't happen.

Portland Protesters Topple Thomas Jefferson Statue at Jefferson High School


Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt
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Old 09-22-2023, 02:30 PM
 
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Stupid events like that are rare as I stated. It's not a 'sign' of anything. It's not a portent of anything.

Making mountains out of molehills. What we have here is a chicken little exercise in pearl clutching.
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Old 09-22-2023, 03:08 PM
 
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Which Jefferson and Lincoln statues were torn down?
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Old 09-22-2023, 03:15 PM
 
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Which Jefferson and Lincoln statues were torn down?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/24/us/th...ved/index.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...evelt-n1242913

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Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt
You like to play word games.
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Old 09-22-2023, 03:17 PM
 
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That's not some national attempt to forget the individuals, it's loonies doing damage.

"The US" "tearing them down like Russia" is the word game. Click bait.
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Old 09-22-2023, 03:31 PM
 
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The "US" didn't do any such thing, these were anarchist protestors. And this was three years ago.
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Old 09-23-2023, 09:18 AM
 
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Does anyone appreciate the irony?

We have a former totalitarian communist nation tearing down the statues of Lenin and Stalin, who personified the oppression of the Russian people and presided over the murders of millions.

In the US, we have the American left tearing down the statues of Jefferson and Lincoln, who personified liberty and freedom not only to the US, but the rest of the world.

The US is in the grips of a totalitarian force, liberalism, that seeks to destroy individual liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and every symbol of the men that preserved that freedom. It is "1984" realized.
Russia is building more statues to Stalin, whose considered a true patriot and great War leader, then again the Soviet lost around 25 million people in WW2.

As for Lenin he's also still revered, and when the Russians invaded certain adjoining regions in Ukraine, Lenin statues and Soviet flags started to reappear in these now Russian controlled areas.

Putin is a former KGB Officer, who despises the woke west and has a lot of admiration for the great historic leaders of the motherland, and what happening in Russia is the total polar opposite to the mess occurring in relation to the destruction of certain US historic and cultural artefacts.
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