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There are many on the Right who for some strange reason think just because the Nazi calls themselves National Socialists they would be supporting Bernie Sanders if they are alive today. Which is preposterous. They Nazi of the day would arrest socialists.
Well... In the probably vain hope that people on C-D might be interested in one or two historical facts, one should point out that during the Nazi rise to power, the party did have a sizable faction holding views that could be fairly be called socialist. It's just that once the Nazis were firmly in power, they saw no reason to deal with the rabble when the German 1% were right there and happily offering loyalty to the new regime.
And so in June of 1934, the non-socialist leaders within the Nazi party - led by Hitler - had a few hundred of the leading socialists inside the party shot, and suddenly there wasn't a whole lot of interest in that viewpoint any more. The Nazis had firmly allied themselves with the officers - a whole lot of whom were old-school nobles and certainly did not hold egalitarian views - and of the industrialists, who just wanted the workers to shut up and do what they were told.
27 million Russians killed by Germany???????? During the war??
It's somewhere between 19-27 million. The tale you've probably never heard is that the Germans sent Einsatzgruppen in behind the battle lines and exterminated an absolutely insane number of Russians. Bear in mind, if you're comparing to Jewish deaths, you might end up counting some victims twice here. Many of the Russians killed were also Jews.
It's one of those bits of history that is not well told in the West. The general commentary is that there is an entire generation of Russian men that simply don't exist. An overstatement certainly, but there was definitely a hollowing out of the men who were of fighting age during WW2.
During the initial invasion, the Germans were ridiculously successful. The German army of less than 4 million captured 9 million POW's. The Russian POW's were brutalized. By he end of the war, 6 million were dead and only 3 million survived. Stalin was just certain the survivors had been turned into loyal soldiers for Hitler, so the remaining 3 million mostly died in Russian gulags. On the other hand, at Stalingrad the Germans fought on and on and on till their numbers were just a fraction of what they started with. They surrendered. Almost ever one of the 250,000 Germans soldiers who surrendered died in Russian gulags. The officers, particularly Field Marshall Paulus, were kept alive for propaganda purposes. At least 1 million Germans died when the Soviets finally took Berlin. Most were civilians. Virtually every German woman in Berlin was raped at least once, even the very young and the very elderly. The total German dead is definitely under-reported. The Germans don't want to talk about it, leaving the Soviets to tell the world whatever they want to. There is a reason that every army and civilian who could manage it headed to the USA, UK and French controlled side of Germany as fast as possible. They knew that the Russians were out for revenge and they wanted none of it.
I'm sure any information I give you you would claim is biased anyways.
If you don't know about Aktion T4 your view on nazi murders, is less relevant than someone who never heard of the federalist papers view of the US Constitution.
Well... In the probably vain hope that people on C-D might be interested in one or two historical facts, one should point out that during the Nazi rise to power, the party did have a sizable faction holding views that could be fairly be called socialist. It's just that once the Nazis were firmly in power, they saw no reason to deal with the rabble when the German 1% were right there and happily offering loyalty to the new regime.
And so in June of 1934, the non-socialist leaders within the Nazi party - led by Hitler - had a few hundred of the leading socialists inside the party shot, and suddenly there wasn't a whole lot of interest in that viewpoint any more. The Nazis had firmly allied themselves with the officers - a whole lot of whom were old-school nobles and certainly did not hold egalitarian views - and of the industrialists, who just wanted the workers to shut up and do what they were told.
Basically, you have an almost perfect copy of Nazi Germany in today's China. They are hyper-capitalistic with a massive divide between the haves and the have nots. They are probably the most racist regime on the planet today. They control every aspect of the lives of their citizens and their state-run media. They have their own internal fabricated enemies which are being systematically tortured and slaughtered. (By the way, good on Nancy Pelosi for being a huge advocate for the victims.)
Now consider for a moment that China was able to almost seamlessly transition from Communist to Nazi. Their government didn't stop being oppressive. A Nazi regime was already in place. It just needed somebody to throw the switch and utilize Capitalism. Nothing else really needed to change.
And bear in mind that in both Nazi Germany and Nazi China, the free market is far from free. If the government says you're making ball bearings instead of baby food, you're damn well making ball bearings. Absolute control of the means of production is something Nazis and Communists have in common. The only difference is that one uses Capitalism while the other uses Collectivism.
Congrats to all who have managed to get people on the Left to defend Communism and people on the Right to defend Nazism/Fascism. Both systems are a blight on human history and nobody in their right mind should be defending either one.
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