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Old 08-04-2020, 07:27 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Their kids are already covered as well as schooling and lunch assistance etc. and have been for some time.

Regardless of peoples opinions on the topic, this is reality.

A few years back I showed how the California state budget changed over the last 40 years and basically those programs have doubled their percentage component of the state budget. (Again, just talking reality, not condemning).

At this point, I give up.

Our corporations exploit foreign labor with low pay and no benefits which undercuts blue collar wages impacting exisiting US poor (a lot of blacks etc. in that group) the most. White, educated folks like myself get the best of both worlds since it doesn't affect my job (or my families) but I get cheaper food etc.

All of this wrapped up with a bow such that opposition has even been deemed racism, even though this is just a end-around of Ceasar Chavez's efforts decades past.

It is frankly one of the slickest, most evil pieces of propaganda devised by US corporations ever but most Americans are too partisan or too stupid to see truth.

To modify a saying, you can lead a horse to water but a lot of people are dumber than a horse.
Damn that is good stuff but as usual cannot rep you again.
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:28 AM
 
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How is an employer supposed to be able to detect whether an illegal alien is using a forged/stolen ID and SS number if even the e-verify system admin admits it can't detect it most of the time?

Can you even imagine what would happen if an employer challenged the veracity of a POC's ID documents? The idiot SJWs would incessantly shriek "Racist!" "Bigot!" "Xenophobe!" and attempt to "cancel" the business. We ALL know that would happen.
And there you have it.

Why hasn't the federal government had the ability to develop ID that is tamper proof? All this time illegals and their employers have been sticking it to the taxpayer not one damn thing has been done to stop it.

We can ***** about walls , sanctuary cities, employers yada yada. But in the end, nothing has changed. Even with all the remedies from 9-11, the feds can't even find the visa overstays.

IMO, it is all a smokescreen to pacify the taxpayer. Employers want illegals. And consumers don't care enough to even monitor where they spend their money. If the product is cheap, who cares how it is made or where it comes from.

We have turned from a nation of citizens to a bunch of consumers.
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:34 AM
 
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....especially since Obama devised a scheme that leaves American citizens in their 50s and early 60s with insurance plans that cost as much as $1000 a month, and with $6,000 deductible.
Our were $1200 a month with a $7500 deductible just for my wife, what a bargain for someone who has paid into the system their entire life!
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:39 AM
 
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....especially since Obama devised a scheme that leaves American citizens in their 50s and early 60s with insurance plans that cost as much as $1000 a month, and with $6,000 deductible.
That's what my kids pay for their employer provided/subsidized health insurance. And one works for prestigious medical center.
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:37 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And there you have it.

Why hasn't the federal government had the ability to develop ID that is tamper proof?
They already mandate Real ID, but look at what happens when anyone suggest such an ID be required to vote? Yep. Same thing... The idiot SJWs incessantly shriek "Racist!" "Bigot!" "Xenophobe!"

On top of that problem, the issue with creating a tamper-proof ID is that it would require the submission of a unique biometric identifier such as fingerprints, retinal scan, etc., from every US citizen, LPR, and authorized temporary non-citizen worker to make e-verify work as well as it was intended to. E-verify has no such database, and I doubt you'd get every US citizen, LPR, and authorized temporary non-citizen worker to agree to submit such biometric identifiers to the Fed Gov. It's too intrusive and a violation of our 4th Amendment Rights.
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:53 AM
 
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Damn that is good stuff but as usual cannot rep you again.
That’s okay, I will do it on your behalf, and for you
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:54 AM
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What Mathguy said.

They already do get free healthcare. Just walk into any hospital emergency room and they have to treat you. Maybe not like Harris county treated the illegal who was working for one of those national tree trimming companies. Their employee fell out of a tree in another county. They brought him to Harris county where he was treated for his injuries for 6 months. Then he was sent home for his mom th care for his paralyzed body.

In the cases of this Covid 19. Which is best, treatment or none? There is a big pocket of cases in Houston where the illegals are living in crowed apartments. Those illegals are working in restaurant kitchens, cleaning office buildings, roofing houses, installing flooring and mowing commercial property all over town. You want them carrying disease, too?

In my perfect world the people who hire them would have their assets seized and imprisoned 10 years for each and every one they hire.

But nobody cares. We are spending a ton of money, but not seeing many deportations or property seized.

The beloved American business owners are passing their expenses onto the rest of us. And the right ******* about socialism. SMH
Yes. They know how to get care. We don't need to cater to them more.

We need to reduce their numbers so it doesn't bankrupt our healthcare system.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:06 AM
 
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Yes. They know how to get care. We don't need to cater to them more.

We need to reduce their numbers so it doesn't bankrupt our healthcare system.
And for all that the US has done for other countries and aid to help impoverished people and compensation for historical injustices and the extreme left claims we need to do more and we should feel guilty for who we are as individuals and as a nation?

Perhaps these people would be happier living in China, Venezuela or Russia and they would be doing us a favor and better our country by doing so!
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:25 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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That would require a change to the current legislation - which isn't up to Biden, or any other single person.


...One of the basic requirements for being an eligible beneficiary of Medicare is to be a U.S. citizen or to be lawfully present in the United States (see page 3 of here ).

According to Section 5561 of the Balanced Budget Act (BBA), the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) are prohibited to pay for Medicare services rendered to “an alien who is not lawfully present in the U.S.”

Undocumented immigrants also cannot access the Affordable Care Act’s marketplace health coverage ( here )
...
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN20Y3FD
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:29 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Default Free healthcare for all illegal aliens?

NO! Hell NO.

I worked 33 years at the same company, at lower wages, to guarantee my healthcare. One of my kids, a college graduate, has been working steady for last 15 years and he can't afford healthcare. Why would I, or any sane American, want to pay for a criminalien's healthcare. If we could remove our illegals, we could save billions of dollars, and virtually remove our country's unemployment issues. Think of all the logistical problems we could end, with the removal of our criminal trespassers, and their burgeoning costs to our country.
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