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Old 08-08-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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Considering the amount of drugs that CONSISTENTLY makes it into the US and reaches its destination, its safe to say, whatever method they are using (whether it be tunnels, or something else), they are having great success.
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Old 08-08-2020, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Dayton OH
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Um no, we have tunnel sensors now and no one has tunneled under the new walls who's foundations are built far under the ground and cemented in.
How come those sensors did not work just a few months ago, to discover the Tijuana to Otay Mesa tunnel, built under the highly reinforced, double-fenced section of the US-Mexico border? The Otay Mesa tunnel had concrete reinforcement and freight wagons running on steel tracks. It was 31 feet deep below the ground.
The fact that there is a San Diego Tunnel Task Force tells me that this is a continual, ongoing issue. I read about similar tunnels in southern Arizona in our local press from time to time, including ones that go from Nogales Mexico to Nogales, AZ under the 30 foot tall steel ballard wall / fence.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...ouses/2296733/

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ne/2701791001/
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Old 08-08-2020, 10:14 AM
 
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There is an unlimited number of seasonal agriculture visas. Nonetheless, there remains a preference for undocumented labor. Guest worker visas require the employer to pay at least $10/ hr, provide housing, healthcare and access to meals. Such visas also allow the worker to bring his/ her spouse and children.

Of course not all undocumented people seek out agriculture work.

Only a handful of states mandate e- Verify. Those that do created intentional loopholes for independent contractors and those employed before e-Verify took effect.

Big box routinely uses E-Verify, regardless of state mandate. It’s small business that employs most undocumented people.
I've heard that e-verify has gaping holes in it via identity theft etc. and Tyson chicken employs enough illegals to fill a stadium. Have you ever been in a town where that's the main employer?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sc...!4d-97.0597019

Well heck yeah they'd rather not use the official program and have to do things like provide benefits etc.

Turning illegal immigration complaints into "racism" was the greatest con-job I've ever seen corporate America pull off.

That and the lie that Americans won't do that work....well not for crap pay and no benefits they won't so I find that to be some really twisted logic. Imagine I cut everyones job at the local car factory and hire illegals who I pay $10/hr. cash with no benefitss? Then when people complain I invited them to come work there for the same deal and blame them when they don't accept.
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Old 08-08-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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I've heard that e-verify has gaping holes in it via identity theft etc. and Tyson chicken employs enough illegals to fill a stadium. Have you ever been in a town where that's the main employer?

Well heck yeah they'd rather not use the official program and have to do things like provide benefits etc.

Turning illegal immigration complaints into "racism" was the greatest con-job I've ever seen corporate America pull off.

That and the lie that Americans won't do that work....well not for crap pay and no benefits they won't so I find that to be some really twisted logic. Imagine I cut everyones job at the local car factory and hire illegals who I pay $10/hr. cash with no benefitss? Then when people complain I invited them to come work there for the same deal and blame them when they don't accept.
What are the illegals using for social security numbers? There's yet another crime.
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Old 08-08-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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How effective are these sensors?
Ground penetrating radar is very effective and mandatory in many places when digging around elec. substations !!! The sensors when understood how they work prove to be unquestionably effective !!!

Buried Sensors - Covert sensors for Intrusion Detection
https://senstar.com/products/buried-sensors/

FiberPatrol works by transmitting pulses of laser light into a single-mode optical fiber and accurately measuring the minute light reflections that occur along its length. A disturbance of the fiber caused by ground vibrations changes the amount of light returned from that point. FiberPatrol’s reflectometry-based technology does not require the light to traverse the full length of cable. If a cable is cut, FiberPatrol retains the ability to detect and locate intrusions up to the point of the cut, thus enabling the system to support cut-immune configurations.
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Old 08-08-2020, 10:26 AM
 
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Um no, we have tunnel sensors now and no one has tunneled under the new walls who's foundations are built far under the ground and cemented in.
Tunnel sensors did not just all of a sudden appear....lol.



https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Amer...rth-the-effort



THe drug cartels will always figure out a new way.

The wall is a mole hill to them.
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Old 08-08-2020, 10:32 AM
 
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Tunnel sensors did not just all of a sudden appear....lol.



https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Amer...rth-the-effort



THe drug cartels will always figure out a new way.

The wall is a mole hill to them.
Its common knowledge the DNC is in close contact and support drug cartels but who in the drug cartel did you talk with to get the mole hill comparison ?
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Old 08-08-2020, 10:32 AM
 
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Um no, we have tunnel sensors now and no one has tunneled under the new walls who's foundations are built far under the ground and cemented in.
Look around in your city...The drug cartels are not having any problems getting drugs into the country!!


Drugs come in...money goes out...rinse and repeat 10, 000X.
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Old 08-08-2020, 10:34 AM
 
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Tunnel sensors did not just all of a sudden appear....lol.



https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Amer...rth-the-effort



THe drug cartels will always figure out a new way.

The wall is a mole hill to them.

The wall is just a layer of a larger security system. It's a security system leftists would dismantle given the chance.
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Old 08-08-2020, 10:52 AM
 
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The wall is just a layer of a larger security system. It's a security system leftists would dismantle given the chance.
How effective is this security system though? LOL


Ya know, Ive been clean for many years now, but in the days when I was using, there was not a SINGLE DAY, when I had a dealer tell me, they were out or low in supply! (now imagine that on a nation wide scale)...what does that tell you about the US security system to protect against dangerous drugs?
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