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Old 08-14-2020, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Interesting... gives us a perspective of where our country's immigrants have come from during different time periods, and all those immigrants have given us a better country
Yes, this isn't meant to be an immigrant bashing thread.

The political thread I was on was simply discussing the changing demographics. This interactive map is extremely informative of simply showing how we got from there to here, nothing more. However, it does show a complete, total, and massive demographic change after 1965 as if a switch was thrown. Immigration patterns after the Immigration Act of 1965 is radically different than before it.

 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:15 AM
 
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It is hard to keep up with influx from so many countries on the map. I find that if I pause it every 5 years 1970... 1975... 1980, then I can actually look at all the highlighted donor nations. The map is set up so that high rates of inflation use very opaque highlight while low rates use a very transpartent highlight for donor countries. So by pausing every 5 years and then examining all the highlighted nations, it really shows you who came from where and when. I had no clue that Hungary was in the top 3 ever.
I'm not surprised Hungary was in the top 3. However, this is why I say that map doesn't tell the whole story. In the 1900s, Hungary was the Austro-Hungarian Empire. While ethnic Hungarians were certainly among those immigrants (Cleveland metro area has the largest Hungarian community in the USA), alot of other immigrants came too. Alot of Polish immigrants went to the USA between 1900 and 1920. However, Poland isn't listen in the even the top 10. Poland was wiped off the map a century prior and partitioned between the Russian, German, and Austro-Hungarian Empires.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I'm not surprised Hungary was in the top 3. However, this is why I say that map doesn't tell the whole story. In the 1900s, Hungary was the Austro-Hungarian Empire. While ethnic Hungarians were certainly among those immigrants (Cleveland metro area has the largest Hungarian community in the USA), alot of other immigrants came too. Alot of Polish immigrants went to the USA between 1900 and 1920. However, Poland isn't listen in the even the top 10. Poland was wiped off the map a century prior and partitioned between the Russian, German, and Austro-Hungarian Empires.
No source is perfect. I would say this map tells what it tells brilliantly. Nothing every tells the whole story but this map shows the fact of who came from where. Whoever made it produced a very clear and informative resource for people curious about immigration patterns since 1820. I have never seen anything close to this informative and I thought I would share it with others here because it is so informative.

I don't claim, and it doesn't claim to be "the whole story". It is simply brilliant at what it does show. That's all.

I guess somebody always has to criticize something.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:34 AM
 
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Forces behind the scene changing the great nation.
I agree that immigration has made the country stronger and greater, but the risk is the immigration patterns. The issue is that immigration is dominated by certain countries throughout various times of history and this hasn't changed. We need immigrants from everywhere -- not just a few countries. For example, Mexico and China should not be dominating countries. Immigrants should be from everywhere more evently.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:35 AM
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We were having a political discussion about voting demographics on another thread and the topic of the dying out of old white men as a dominant demographic voting group was being discussed.

The discussion reminded me of a very interesting interactive graphic I saw previously. Posted below is a link to an interactive map that shows the source nations for immigrants to America from 1820 to present. The complete shift following the Immigration Act of 1965 is striking and dramatic.

From 1820 to 1965, European nations dominate US immigration. After 1965, non-European nations completely dominate US immigration, as if somebody just flipped a switch.

It is a compelling graphic. For example, Mexican immigration does not even appear until 1910, then by 1963 it is the top spot and never yields. Mexico stays the top donor nation from 1963 to present.

This map explains a lot about our nation's demographic changes.

Another amazing feature is how the map just dies during the Great Depression. There were no jobs here for immigrants. I am sure they wanted to come here but we had no way to employ them with unemployment already so high. The map just comes to a screaching halt until well after WWII.

Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants are almost non-existent until 1970/75, and then BOOM, it is a flood. Just interesting to note what seems an almost immediate change in the map.

In addition to showing the source countries of immigrants by year, the lower left shows the top 3 nations by year. You can also pause the map at any given year and and you can move the slider to any given year for display. The information comes fast and gets hard to follow with so many nations. I find that pausing on a regular basis is really helpful to view all the different nations contributing in a given year. Running it without ever pausing it overwhelms me.

Just an interesting and informative graphic for anyone who has never seen it. It does a remarkable job of demonstrating immigration over time as clearly as it can be shown.

Here's Everyone Who's Immigrated to the U.S. Since 1820 - Metrocosm
The chart showing immigration as a % of population shows why we seemed pretty homogenous in the 60s. From 1930 until 1970 there just weren't a lot of immigrants as a %.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:41 AM
 
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No source is perfect. I would say this map tells what it tells brilliantly. Nothing every tells the whole story but this map shows the fact of who came from where. Whoever made it produced a very clear and informative resource for people curious about immigration patterns since 1820. I have never seen anything close to this informative and I thought I would share it with others here because it is so informative.

I don't claim, and it doesn't claim to be "the whole story". It is simply brilliant at what it does show. That's all.

I guess somebody always has to criticize something.
I look at all of this through the lens of geography. In this case, I'm looking at historical geography.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Forces behind the scene changing the great nation. Is it any wonder the greatness is waning?
It was no accident that the demographics changed radically afterwards.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:45 AM
 
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Wow that is a real cool map. Amazing to see how things real picked up recently. Now the USA really is bringing in people from all corners of the world.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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That's downright scary to watch.
 
Old 08-14-2020, 11:49 AM
 
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Canada was a stepping stone for many many immigrants coming to the US. My grandfather came here from Newfoundland in 1918. Both of my great grandmothers came from Quebec around 1910. The textile factories of New Hampshire and Maine were all filled with French Canadians who poured down from Quebec.
Newfoundland was its own country until 1949, when it joined the Canadian Dominion. That is to be considered.

New England wasn't the only region to receive French Canadian immigrants. Michigan and Minnesota also received French-Canadian immigrants, mainly from Manitoba and Ontario.
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