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It’s interesting that most polls on CD show a majority are Republicans which makes sense that these same people think the Kenosha killer should get off. Both him and the cop that shot Blake 7x’s belong in prison.
Yet the vast majority of threads & posts are anti-President Trump / Republican. That tells us that there are only a hand-full of pro-demolibs on here who do most of that specific type of thread creation & response.
Anybody who travels across state lines with an assault rifle to insert themselves into a riot zone is a self-appointed vigilante by definition. Kyle R. was a vigilante, full stop, period.
I've seen the video. It's not 100% clear that at the moment that KR pulled the trigger he was in immediate danger. There was chaos, people running after him, but at the moment he pulled the trigger it is simply not 100% clear it was self-defense.
There's been discussion that the kid didn't come across state lines with a weapon. At some point after he arrived is when he got it.
Yea, sure, yours too. Oh, wait, you don't even have an opinion, you just show up and behave like a little poodle who gnaws on people ankles.
I form opinions on facts. Babbling logical fallacies like a school boy with yellow fluid dripping down one's pant leg is not going to attract a good deal of approbation.
You do not have the nuance to understand that one making a citizen arrest can be misunderstood to be an attacker.
Do you even research Wisconsin law and the criteria rather than just babble ?
In addition to safety concerns, you also face legal risks when making a citizen’s arrest. The Fourth Amendments restricts unreasonable searches and seizures, and you could be prosecuted for depriving someone of their constitutional rights. You could also face a civil lawsuit for false imprisonment, assault or battery.
To make a plausible citizens arrest I would suggest not issuing threats of violence , nor would anyone with that intent stop him given he was running towards the police, not away from them.
Oh the irony as well. I suppose they really believed in finding interesting ways to arrest armed people. Unfortunately they proved why the police are not apt to find novel ways to neutralize armed men or potentially armed men violently resisting arrest. They failed the first try , let alone hundreds of them.
Anybody who travels across state lines with an assault rifle to insert themselves into a riot zone is a self-appointed vigilante by definition. Kyle R. was a vigilante, full stop, period.
I've seen the video. It's not 100% clear that at the moment that KR pulled the trigger he was in immediate danger. There was chaos, people running after him, but at the moment he pulled the trigger it is simply not 100% clear it was self-defense.
You didn't see the guy with the skateboard throwing it at him and then lunging down onto him? You didn't see the guy whip out the handgun and proceed to point it at the kid when he then took the bullet to the bicep?
And did you notice that right after the kid punched those two attacker's ticket's the swarm of attackers was reduced to a heard of retreating elbows and asouls?
Anybody who travels across state lines with an assault rifle to insert themselves into a riot zone is a self-appointed vigilante by definition. Kyle R. was a vigilante, full stop, period.
I've seen the video. It's not 100% clear that at the moment that KR pulled the trigger he was in immediate danger. There was chaos, people running after him, but at the moment he pulled the trigger it is simply not 100% clear it was self-defense.
Anybody who travels across state lines with an assault rifle to insert themselves into a riot zone is a self-appointed vigilante by definition. Kyle R. was a vigilante, full stop, period.
I've seen the video. It's not 100% clear that at the moment that KR pulled the trigger he was in immediate danger. There was chaos, people running after him, but at the moment he pulled the trigger it is simply not 100% clear it was self-defense.
It is entirely clear that he was in danger from Rosenbaum. He was being chased by someone who had already tried to incite violence, had something thrown at him, and there was gunfire behind him. It takes a massive case of cognitive dissonance to not see the situation as dangerous.
I might agree with you on this if Kyle had violated some law by crossing state lines as many here are trying to argue. But he didn't.
Not from a legal standpoint, but from a moral one. They can use borders against the right, when it is that they don't. Unfortunately for them they outed themselves with Chaz.
What is your basis for considering him guilty of manslaughter?
It would have to be 3rd-degree murder or nothing. And I would bet my house they will never get a jury to agree to a 3rd-degree murder charge. It was clearly self-defense. But the government will put on a show for a while until most people forget about it.
[snip]Kyle claims he was defending parked cars (which didn't even belong to him), and he killed a person in process of doing that. [snip]
No, no, no. Let's not oversimplify to absurdity. He was defending himself first from Rosenbaum and then the others.
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