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Old 09-05-2020, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Even Bolton ,who was THERE, no Trump lover, came out and said it NEVER WAS SAID by Trump.
To be fair, Bolton said that he never heard it when he was with the president, but it's still telling and harms the other poster I was chatting with here who claimed that the statements could have have uttered at multiple times/places during that day

 
Old 09-05-2020, 05:51 AM
 
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I know that three other news gathering organizations independently confirmed the statements with their sources. Whether they were the same sources Jeffrey Goldberg quoted or not is irrelevant, because Trump could have easily made the comments on more than one occasion with different people in the room. The statements stand on their own lack of merit. I'm willing to place a wager on two of the sources being Kelly and Mattis.

All of the people who work for the administration may not be liars, but every press secretary Trump has had, Spicer, Sanders, Conway, and McEnany, are all inveterate sequential liars who can be easily fact checked.
Mattis and Kelly came to mind immediately.

This whole thing doesn't surprise those who know Trump - and probably will only affect the fence-sitting voter, the few that are out there anymore.

His 30% base won't care.

But maybe with his racism, misogyny, and defamation of the American Soldier - that will be enough to sway a few voters to kick this clown out of the WH.

And the pathological lying. Who wants a POTUS who keeps on lying? https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...eading-claims/

He'll get his FOX News show in 2021 and be a loudmouth there for the next few years.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Midwest/South
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Folks, the media will say and do anything. That should scare every American. When Trump says the media are "the enemy of the people", he might actually be on to something. The media is LITERALLY TRYING TO SWAY THE NARRATIVE AND PICK A WINNER. LITERALLY. They are not even hiding it anymore.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
Even Bolton ,who was THERE, no Trump lover, came out and said it NEVER WAS SAID by Trump.
Bolton said he never heard Trump say it, but would not be surprised if he did. He never refuted that the comments were made.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Oh please, seems to me you should be more concerned about where this country is policy wise in the future than some name calling. Guess you were the teacher’s inside rat back in school pointing out other students that called you names that offended your delicate sensibilities. How many times were you running home after the final bell rang.
What policies does Trump have? You can't say because no one, not even him knows.

Hmm, you've pointed out what Trump is--a child resorting to name calling. That's YOUR president--a snotty nosed kid bullying others. But immature people choose someone to lead them with whom they can identify.

What policies? Defund the post office? Roll back health care protections without providing a replacement program first? Cut social security to the elderly? Destroy American farmers by starting a trade war with China? Steal money from OUR military to build his "wall?" Sell mineral rights in National Parks to private companies so that soon we will have none? Lower taxes so much for corporations and mostly ultra-rich individuals that he has gutted the long term stance of Republicans on "controlling" the Federal debt? Refuse to take responsibility for ANYTHING that doesn't paint him as "King" Trump?

Democrats actually HAVE a political platform which can be read here:

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-con...stribution.pdf

You may not like some of them--particularly the ones that haven't ever been tried in the U.S.---but it doesn't change from day to day like Trump's.

He's a child and a bully. And there are always those who like childish adults and will support bullies.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 06:28 AM
 
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What Trump said about Senator John McCain has been debunked by Fox News Tucker Carlson.
he was on a stage being interviewed - everyone heard the words out of his mouth
 
Old 09-05-2020, 06:48 AM
 
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By extension, it wouldn't surprise me whatsoever if Trump also regard police officers killed in action or even the doctors or nurses, medical folks who have contracted COVID-19 and died as being "losers and suckers" as well. Or those FDNY who died entering the WTC towers before collapsing on 9/11.

You see, Trump has no concept of doing for others and self sacrifice. He's always in it for himself. His father taught him that.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Florida
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By extension, it wouldn't surprise me whatsoever if Trump also regard police officers killed in action or even the doctors or nurses, medical folks who have contracted COVID-19 and died as being "losers and suckers" as well. Or those FDNY who died entering the WTC towers before collapsing on 9/11.

You see, Trump has no concept of doing for others and self sacrifice. He's always in it for himself. His father taught him that.
Correct. He cant comprehend why anyone would do something unless there is a personal gain in it.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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By extension, it wouldn't surprise me whatsoever if Trump also regard police officers killed in action or even the doctors or nurses, medical folks who have contracted COVID-19 and died as being "losers and suckers" as well. Or those FDNY who died entering the WTC towers before collapsing on 9/11.

You see, Trump has no concept of doing for others and self sacrifice. He's always in it for himself. His father taught him that.

This is what you get when you are given everything in life and never had to work for it. You dont respect or appreciate what you have because you didnt earn it. So you have no respect for others, what they do or sacrifice to get it, or even died for a cause. Are you really surprised he's like that. Even heard from his own family members how he is. Father Fred really did a number on him.
 
Old 09-05-2020, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Correct. He cant comprehend why anyone would do something unless there is a personal gain in it.
I wonder if he would have considered dying from an STD honorable? Hard to believe he would still have sex with a porn star unprotected.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/14/med...tds/index.html
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