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Old 10-07-2020, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Business ethics is an oxymoron.
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But....but....but....

Orange Man Bad!

It was HER TURN and he STOLE it from her!!!!
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Old 10-07-2020, 11:07 AM
 
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White House chief of staff Mark Meadows on Monday said Trump had "tasked me with getting some declassification rolling" as the president was recovering from COVID-19 at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Officials began releasing documents on Tuesday.

ALL or SOME ???????
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Old 10-07-2020, 12:50 PM
 
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You know the Epstein crimes will disappear if Biden gets in. I wonder just how many of these journalists were on his Lolita express.

Epstein knew how to use people and blackmail them to get his money.
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Old 10-07-2020, 01:11 PM
 
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This supposed to change people’s minds?

We’re not voting off what Clinton might’ve done four years. This election has nothing to do with Clinton. This election is all about trump.

and after four years; he’s been a failure.

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You know the Epstein crimes will disappear if Biden gets in. I wonder just how many of these journalists were on his Lolita express.

Epstein knew how to use people and blackmail them to get his money.
Trump and Epstein were buddies. Why would that need to disappear?

For Bill Clinton? If there’s something to prosecute, prosecute. Nobody cares.
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Old 10-07-2020, 01:17 PM
 
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If there was anything illegal -- it would have been dealt with...

yeah , thats how DC works, perfect justice every time. You must be the first to declare Trump's innocence since all has been "dealt with"
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Old 10-07-2020, 01:18 PM
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This supposed to change people’s minds?

We’re not voting off what Clinton might’ve done four years. This election has nothing to do with Clinton. This election is all about trump.

and after four years; he’s been a failure.



Trump and Epstein were buddies. Why would that need to disappear?

For Bill Clinton? If there’s something to prosecute, prosecute. Nobody cares.
The election for you is all about Trump. You are willing to put a serious dementia patient with a weird habit of touching young girls in the White House. You ignore the lowest unemployment in 50 years, record low Black unemployment, higher rising income in the bottom 50% for the first time in decades, rising manufacturing employment for the first time in decades, North Korea actually talking to us, no new wars and a reduction of troops in the forever wars, peace in the middle east, allies paying their share, death to Iran's lead terrorist, a president who didn't have imaginary red lines but attacked and killed Russian mercenaries who threatened our troops and a president who sent Ukraine anti-tank weapons to defend against the Russians instead of socks. He hasn't created a failed state like Obama did in Libya and Clinton did in Kosovo.

And that doesn't even include the horrible policies the Democrats support from the far left of their party.
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Old 10-07-2020, 01:20 PM
 
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It is a fact that Russia interfered in our elections. There are multiple grand jury indictments of Russians, perhaps 26 or more, for their parts in the activities.

It is a fact that Trump was aware of it and pleased with the help, even if he did not directly contribute to their efforts.

It is a fact that there were over 40 contacts between members of the Trump campaign and Russian operatives, picked up by routine surveillance of Russian communications initially. This was not surveillance of Americans, they were contacting the Russians and got picked up as the other parties in phone calls etc.

No other campaign that year had any contacts. None of the 16 other Republican primary campaigns nor the five Democratic campaigns, not the Greens nor the Libertarians. But the Trump campaign had dozens initially, and the list later expanded to several hundred conversations and exchanges, sometimes meeting in person.

It is a fact that Paul Manafort, then head of the Trump campaign, met with a Russian operative personally and handed over Republican private polling data for the four states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota.

It is a fact that the Steele dossier was first commissioned by a Republican PAC, and purchased by the Democrats later.

It is a fact that the Trump campaign forced the Republican Platform committee to eliminate harsh condemnations of Russia's attacks on Ukraine. They literally defanged the erstwhile patriotic Republican party.

It is a fact that Trump attempted to lift all sanctions on Russia the first week in office, Congress found out about it and stopped that attempt. Further sanctions approved after Trump took office were opposed by Trump, and he signed them reluctantly after Congress demonstrated it could over-ride his veto. Subsequently Trump did not enforce the new sanctions.

The Muller report outlines no less than ten incidences of Donald Trump obstructing justice in cases related to the Russian interference.

These current meager attempts to throw shade on the investigations of contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia simply will not work. Hell yeah we want our national security apparatus checking into these crimes. It's what we pay them for, and as patriots they would want to do it.
Your doing a Hillary Clinton. Trying to distract the public away from real crimes. Nice try.
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Old 10-07-2020, 01:23 PM
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Can you imagine how much press this would get in the MSM if this was done by Republicans? I'm sick and tired of the way the media focuses on minutia and ignores the real news in order to promote the Democrat agenda.
Can you imagine the press if a Republican had said, "I'd like to see these girls dance in 4 years?"

And you really do have to look for real news hard to get passed fake anti-Trump stories.

How many people know the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan has restarted? And that Russia is allied with Armenia and Turkey is supporting Azerbaijan?

How many people know Turkey and Egypt are supporting opposite sides in the Libyan war and have been dangerously close to getting their troops involved? For now both are using Syrian mercenaries. Russia is siding with Egypt and France with Turkey.

How many know the Syrian war is still active with Turkey and rebels on one side, Assad, Russian and Iran on another side, Syrian Kurds on their own and ISIS still in tiny pockets?
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Old 10-07-2020, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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It is a fact that Russia interfered in our elections. There are multiple grand jury indictments of Russians, perhaps 26 or more, for their parts in the activities.

It is a fact that Trump was aware of it and pleased with the help, even if he did not directly contribute to their efforts.

It is a fact that there were over 40 contacts between members of the Trump campaign and Russian operatives, picked up by routine surveillance of Russian communications initially. This was not surveillance of Americans, they were contacting the Russians and got picked up as the other parties in phone calls etc.

No other campaign that year had any contacts. None of the 16 other Republican primary campaigns nor the five Democratic campaigns, not the Greens nor the Libertarians. But the Trump campaign had dozens initially, and the list later expanded to several hundred conversations and exchanges, sometimes meeting in person.

It is a fact that Paul Manafort, then head of the Trump campaign, met with a Russian operative personally and handed over Republican private polling data for the four states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota.

It is a fact that the Steele dossier was first commissioned by a Republican PAC, and purchased by the Democrats later.

It is a fact that the Trump campaign forced the Republican Platform committee to eliminate harsh condemnations of Russia's attacks on Ukraine. They literally defanged the erstwhile patriotic Republican party.

It is a fact that Trump attempted to lift all sanctions on Russia the first week in office, Congress found out about it and stopped that attempt. Further sanctions approved after Trump took office were opposed by Trump, and he signed them reluctantly after Congress demonstrated it could over-ride his veto. Subsequently Trump did not enforce the new sanctions.

The Muller report outlines no less than ten incidences of Donald Trump obstructing justice in cases related to the Russian interference.

These current meager attempts to throw shade on the investigations of contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia simply will not work. Hell yeah we want our national security apparatus checking into these crimes. It's what we pay them for, and as patriots they would want to do it.

I'm wondering why nobody has been charged with a crime after 3 years and one impeachment if these things are true.
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Old 10-07-2020, 01:46 PM
 
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It is a fact that Russia interfered in our elections. There are multiple grand jury indictments of Russians, perhaps 26 or more, for their parts in the activities.


Russians used social media and conceal the operations . China just decided to use Biden directly. Russians just decided to wire money directly to Biden. Got it. Guess you figured yo can just dump it here and no one will look into it. Typically scummy Leftist tactics.


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russi...litical-system
The conspirators allegedly took extraordinary steps to make it appear that they were ordinary American political activists. This included the use of virtual private networks and other means to disguise their activities and to obfuscate their Russian origin. They used social media platforms to create thousands of social media and email accounts that appeared to be operated by U.S. persons, and used them to create and amplify divisive social and political content targeting U.S. audiences. These accounts also were used to advocate for the election or electoral defeat of particular candidates in the 2016 and 2018 U.S. elections. Some social media accounts posted tens of thousands of messages, and had tens of thousands of followers.
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The conspirators’ alleged activities did not exclusively adopt one ideological view; they wrote on topics from varied and sometimes opposing perspectives. Members of the conspiracy were directed, among other things, to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to “aggravate the conflict between minorities and the rest of the population.” The actors also developed playbooks and strategic messaging documents that offered guidance on how to target particular social groups, including the timing of messages, the types of news outlets to use, and how to frame divisive messages.
Oh so they were not trying to elect Trump.

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It is a fact that Trump was aware of it and pleased with the help, even if he did not directly contribute to their efforts.
To be fair Biden knew more that Trump because he was taking bribes directly. so yeah Biden was on top it with a good view on a pile of money.

You need thousands pages to spin phone calls about an incoming Administration and a few dirty people in Washing to who were already there.

Russians wired 3.5 million to Biden. That's it. Pretty simply operation.
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