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Old 05-06-2008, 08:09 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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At least a socialist doesn't ask himself the following question:
Why do anything if you can't make a profit?
Profit is not their aim of the game.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:57 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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At least a socialist doesn't ask himself the following question:
Why do anything if you can't make a profit?
Profit is not their aim of the game.
No gaining and collecting power over others is...

All for the 'greater good' of course..
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Sugar Land, TX
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Okay, okay, okay. Let's sum this thread up:

People of color suck. Especially African-Americans. Anything that has happened to people of color isn't really THAT bad. They need to get over it so we white folks can feel better about being white. Besides, if hard pressed, we can always come up with a similar example. Blacks had chattel slavery. We had...uh...well, what about the Irish?

Here are my links from all my biased sites to support my horsesh*t view.

(sigh) Why can't minorities be more like white people, shining the light of civilization upon the world?

The end.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:06 AM
 
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No gaining and collecting power over others is...

All for the 'greater good' of course..
Touche' Oz, touche'!

Last edited by laysayfair; 05-06-2008 at 11:06 AM.. Reason: spelling
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:24 AM
 
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Okay, okay, okay. Let's sum this thread up:

People of color suck. Especially African-Americans. Anything that has happened to people of color isn't really THAT bad. They need to get over it so we white folks can feel better about being white. Besides, if hard pressed, we can always come up with a similar example. Blacks had chattel slavery. We had...uh...well, what about the Irish?

Here are my links from all my biased sites to support my horsesh*t view.

(sigh) Why can't minorities be more like white people, shining the light of civilization upon the world?

The end.
That one again. If one can't provide empirical evidence to refute the argument, then imply racism is at work. Further, do so in a sarcastic way, in order to try and fool others into thinking the real reason for not providing said counter-evidence is that the original argument is not worthy of such. It's an old ploy and fools no one.

As a final aside...all opinions are "biased". Relevant question is are the supporting facts themselves true?
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:27 AM
 
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No gaining and collecting power over others is...

All for the 'greater good' of course..
Right on the mark, Oz! Socialism in a nutshell!
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Sugar Land, TX
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If one can't provide empirical evidence to refute the argument
Like you did?
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:55 PM
 
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Yes and we all know how well socialism has served us in the past century. It had slaves too. People's Republic of China, Cambodia, North Korea, USSR, and so on. Man, they all had slavery and some still do. Must be that free market influence.
You need to come up with some fresh material. The Pol Pot Magic Wand does not actually dispel any of the points raised concerning the flaws inherent in relying on a free market system.

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(To anyone who is not familiar, Saganista has stated that he is socialist in the past. I think he stated that he is a Communist as well. This isn't "You criticized an aspect of the free market! Commie!" kind of remark.)
Given the nature of various other beliefs you have put forward, it is hardly surprising to find you so wildly off base on this one.

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Strawman. Nobody is claiming that Tuskegee was okay, it violated countless ethical principles and caused a lot of people who could have been cured
to die or end up brain damaged. What he is saying that the government did not infect the men who were experimented on with syphilis. There is a big difference between the two, especially when people mistakenly believe the later as justification for conspiracy theories.
The point is meaningless. The claimed fact that a minority of between 10% and 33% of blacks falsely believe that patients were injected with syphillis does not at all establish the thesis that The infamous Tuskegee experiment is the Medusa's head of black left-wing paranoia. Plainly, a very large majority does not believe that at all, and so bases its condemnations of the affair on other aspects of it entirely. What Goldberg is trying to do is claim that because a small number of people are in error about one aspect of a problem, the large number of people who see the same problem are wrong, even though they themselves do not commit the same error. That is fraud. Goldberg cannot make a thesis, so he simply invents one. Pretty much par for the course that right-wingers prefer to play.

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Yes, because extremely high taxes have no negative effect on the economy which can cause it to stagnate or people to evade taxes.
No one was talking about high marginal tax rates. The topic was the oft-expressed right-wing delusion that tax cuts increase revenue. They do not. Your post is unrelated to that topic.

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And we all know social security is going alone swimmingly especially since there are only going to be about 2 or 3 people paying into social security for every retiree and that cannot possibly result in extremely high taxes (silly me, I forgot those don't hurt the economy) or result social security payments being extremely low.
The topic again was the oft-expressed right-wing delusion that SS is going bankrupt. It is not. Your post reveals only that you know very little about the future of Social Security.

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Oh, I forgot to mention how stupid it was for anyone to think that Saddam might have WMDs when he did at one point and was constantly kicking weapons inspectors out of the country and restricting the places where they could and could not go. That didn't seem especially suspicious.
The topic again was the oft-expressed right-wing delusion that Saddam had WMD. He did not. Informed people were advising that he did not. Informed people were proving that he did not. I would agree that it was stupid to believe that he did anyway.
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:07 PM
 
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No gaining and collecting power over others is...
Oh. You mean sort of like the powers that police have over others to prevent them from wantonly robbing, exploiting, and otherwise abusing the rights of third parties. You know, in my experience, it's usually only the robbers, exploiters, and abusers who actually object to that sort of thing.

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All for the 'greater good' of course..
We realize that you all are opposed to the greater good. There are precious few remaining who have not been convinced of that fact by the events of the past seven-plus years...
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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At least a socialist doesn't ask himself the following question:
Why do anything if you can't make a profit?
Profit is not their aim of the game.
no he tells himself "why do anything when someone else will do it for me"
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