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Sorry, my mistake. It’s a randomized controlled trial.
Well, I was told by Matadora that there is no such thing as a randomized controlled trial when it comes to studying mask use. She posts as if she works in the health care field. I'm thinking CNA or phlebotomist.
So I read through the methodology. Basically, healthy adults wear masks and go on about their normal routines, and another group of healthy adults don't wear masks and go about their daily routines. In a month we'll see who has more covid. In a nutshell.
First, that methodology DOESN'T test for what science is currently telling us - that mask wearers protect OTHERS, not the wearer. So that component - the most interesting and most widely recommended procedure - doesn't even enter this study at all.
Secondly, there is no double blind or placebo components to this study as the original post indicated.
I don't now whether wearing a mask around a bunch of non mask wearers will help the mask wearer avoid COVID, but that's what this study seeks to determine, and it does seem early on that we were told masks don't protect the wearer.
So I read through the methodology. Basically, healthy adults wear masks and go on about their normal routines, and healthy adults don't wear masks and go about their daily routines. In a month we'll see who has more covid. In a nutshell.
First, that methodology DOESN'T test for what science is currently telling us - that mask wearers protect OTHERS, not the wearer. So that component - the most interesting and most widely recommended procedure - doesn't even enter this study at all.
Secondly, there is no double blind or placebo components to this study as the original post indicated.
I don't now whether wearing a mask around a bunch of non mask wearers will help the mask wearer avoid COVID, but that's what this study seeks to determine, and it does seem early on that we were told masks don't protect the wearer.
I updated the OP to correct my mistake regarding double blind placebo controlled.
Is there truly any real evidence that masks protect others?
First, that methodology DOESN'T test for what science is currently telling us - that mask wearers protect OTHERS, not the wearer.
Science is saying both. The same mechanism protecting others from catching Covid19 from you, also offers some protection to the wearer.
So this is where results are very important. If there is no difference between the mask wearers and the control group, it blows up the mask narrative.
Personally, I think W. Europe is blowing up the mask narrative by itself. They had mask mandates everywhere, and look what's happening in every W European country.
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I updated the OP to correct my mistake regarding double blind placebo controlled.
Is there truly any real evidence that masks protect others?
The evidence at this point is anecdotal - that is, where people are masked and distanced, there seems to be less spread.
I think the only way to test this FOR SURE would be to put known infected people in groups - some groups all masked, and some groups not masked - and count who gets sick in each group. Doesn't seem like a very good idea.
The evidence seems pretty clear - in Austin, they opened bars for ONE weekend, and people who went to those bars had a huge uptick in infections - doing what you do in bars. Stand real close to each other, no mask, and shout in each other's faces to be heard over the music and crowd noise.
The evidence at this point is anecdotal - that is, where people are masked and distanced, there seems to be less spread.
I think the only way to test this FOR SURE would be to put known infected people in groups - some groups all masked, and some groups not masked - and count who gets sick in each group. Doesn't seem like a very good idea.
The evidence seems pretty clear - in Austin, they opened bars for ONE weekend, and people who went to those bars had a huge uptick in infections - doing what you do in bars. Stand real close to each other, no mask, and shout in each other's faces to be heard over the music and crowd noise.
Hopefully this study is published. There is no reason other then suppression why it’s not.
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Yes, there's a youtube video or two showing someone sneezing, with animations showing droplets.
That's what passes for "science" among the mask cultists.
Well, that's where you START, in gathering information. You see what seems to be working (people in masked communities seem to have less spread when the virus is present in the community than people who are unmasked when the virus is present in the community).
And then some stuff, falls under "that stands to reason". It stands to reason that a mask over the face would keep the wearer from spreading as much of a respiratory virus compared to a person who isn't masked. When you can SEE 10X the water droplets escaping into the air from an unmasked person in a slomo video, it "stands to reason" that the virus would be spread more quickly with an unmasked person.
And THAT is why all of us grew up knowing it was rude not to cover your moth and nose with a tissue or your hand when coughing and sneezing. Because we've all known for generations that coughing and sneezing into the open air spreads disease.
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She posts as if she works in the health care field. I'm thinking CNA or phlebotomist.
