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Old 10-23-2020, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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..... and they can count any ballots that arrive up to 3 days after the election, even if not postmarked by Election Day. Folks this how a coup happens.
If Democrats cheat, then Republicans should cheat back. However, if Republican and Democrat workers are watching each other at the polling locations, there may not be much cheating.
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Old 10-23-2020, 09:49 PM
 
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The link is a bunch of tweets. What is the reason for this?
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Old 10-23-2020, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Why not just rule that Democrats can vote after the election in sufficient numbers to win the election?
Why not ask a more absurd question?
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Old 10-23-2020, 09:57 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Since we don't teach cursive in schools anymore then people will just print their names in the future. How are they going to compare that. My signature changes all the time because I'm not used writing my name anymore. Everything is on keyboard now. I write it half in cursive and half in print. Weird, I know.
Yeah mine does too. It changes based upon the pen I am using, if I am in a hurry or feel stressed. I have worked with my hands my entire life and now I have a bit of arthritis and that impacts my signature. Finally the surface and material that I am writing on impacts the signature.

That said if the Dems wanted the matching signatures removed I suspect it is to grease the wheels of cheating. We are talking PA, home of the kids for cash scandal and many other acts of corruption. LOL

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Old 10-23-2020, 10:08 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I couldn't find anything in the article that said this. Only that signatures didn't have to resemble the signature on file.

Got a link or reference that says they can count ballots that arrive up to 3 days after Election Day, even without postmarks from Election day?
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In a 4-4 decision the U.S. Supreme Court allowed a Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision to stand that requires ballots received up to three days after the election to be counted. Only if a ballot is clearly postmarked after 8 p.m. on Election Day will it not be counted if it arrives by 5 p.m. on Nov. 6.
https://www.naco.org/articles/suprem...r-election-day
So, no postmark at all means it is not clearly marked after 8 pm Election Day. And, now signatures don’t have to match.

If the difference comes down to Pennsylvania the election can literally be stolen.
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Old 10-23-2020, 10:15 PM
 
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Yeah mine does too. It changes based upon the been I am using, if I am in a hurry or feel stressed. I have worked with my hands my entire life and now I have a bit of arthritis and that impacts my signature. Finally the surface and material that I am writing on impacts the signature.

That said if the Dems wanted the matching signatures removed I suspect it is to grease the wheels of cheating. We are talking PA, home of the kids for cash scandal and many other acts of corruption. LOL
Omg, trying to write with your finger on a pad is impossible. I can't even read my signature lol. Republicans like to cry voter fraud but have no real proof. It may be a story here and there but nothing substantial.
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Old 10-23-2020, 10:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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So, no postmark at all means it is not clearly marked after 8 pm Election Day. And, now signatures don’t have to match.

If the difference comes down to Pennsylvania the election can literally be stolen.
The Supremes voted 4-4 on the Penn Supreme Court decision. A tie vote means that the U.S. Supreme Court lets the lower court decision stand.

And the lower court (in this case the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court) says what you said.

From the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court decision (see https://www.scotusblog.com/wp-conten...03e99643-1.pdf , page 37):
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After consideration, we adopt the Secretary’s informed recommendation of a three day extension of the absentee and mail-in ballot received-by deadline to allow for the tabulation of ballots mailed by voters via the USPS and postmarked by 8:00 p.m. on Election Day...
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We likewise incorporate the Secretary’s recommendation addressing ballots receivedwithin this period that lack a postmark or other proof of mailing, or for which the postmark or other proof of mailing is illegible. Accordingly, in such cases, we conclude that a ballot received on or before 5:00 p.m. on November 6, 2020, will be presumed to have been mailed by Election Day unless a preponderance of the evidence demonstrates that it was mailed after Election Day.
We emphasize that voters utilizing the USPS must cast their ballots prior to 8:00 p.m. on Election Day, like all voters, including those utilizing drop boxes, as set forth supra. We refuse, however, to disenfranchise voters for the lack or illegibility of a postmark resulting from the USPS processing system, which is undeniably outside the control of the individual voter.
It occurs to me that, as the Pennsy court says, a "lack or illegibility of a postmark" is indeed outside the control of the voter... unless the voter, or a helper, deliberately planned it that way.

Katie bar the door. I can hear now, thundering herds of Democrat lawyers descending on Pennsylvania... along with trucks, mail sacks, forms to let such-and-such a stranger turn in your ballot, and everything else needed for the Democrats to visit every nursing home, retirement community, college dorm, hospital, etc. in search of ballots nobody has marked.

My only remaining question is, now that the Pennsy Supreme court decided, and the US Supreme Court affirmed (sort of) that such actions will be held as legal.....

....are the Republicans also preparing equal (or greater) thundering herds to similarly invade Pennsylvania?

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Old 10-23-2020, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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A Pennsylvania court ruled that signatures on mail ballots don't have to match the registration form.


https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/...il-in-ballots/
No that's not what they said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...natures-431794

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“We conclude that the Election Code does not authorize or require county election boards to reject absentee or mail-in ballots during the canvassing process based on an analysis of a voter’s signature,” the state Supreme Court wrote in an opinion signed by six of the seven justices, including five Democrats and one Republican.


The seventh justice, another Republican, concurred with the ruling.

The court directs “the county boards of elections not to reject absentee or mail-in ballots for counting, computing, and tallying based on signature comparisons conducted by county election officials or employees, or as the result of third party challenges based on such comparisons.”

“If the Voter’s Declaration on the return envelope is signed and the county board is satisfied that the declaration is sufficient, the mail-in or absentee ballot should be approved for canvassing unless challenged in accordance with the Pennsylvania Election Code,” Boockvar’s mid-September guidance read. “The Pennsylvania Election Code does not authorize the county board of elections to set aside returned absentee or mail-in ballots based solely on signature analysis by the county board of elections.”
They never said signatures 'don't have to match'. What they said is they can't be summarily rejected based SOLELY on that. The standard challenge rules still exist on those ballots potentially suspect.

I highly doubt the state has handwriting experts on hand in sufficient numbers to analyze signatures. Anything suspect goes through a challenge process.

Furthermore this ruling was unanimous with 5 democrats and 2 republican judges.
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Old 10-23-2020, 10:46 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Omg, trying to write with your finger on a pad is impossible. I can't even read my signature lol. Republicans like to cry voter fraud but have no real proof. It may be a story here and there but nothing substantial.
Travel to PA. I would only be surprised if it didn't happen there. Especially in the old coal mining areas like Luzerne and Lackawanna Counties.

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Old 10-23-2020, 10:51 PM
 
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Travel to PA. I would only be surprised if it didn't happen there. Especially in the old coal ming areas like Luzerne and Lackawanna Counties.
You are speculating. I want proof of what you are saying.
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