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Old 10-25-2020, 04:19 PM
 
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The right-wing cannot argue without invoking a fantastically unrealistic doom day scenario. They watch Hollywood sci-fi and apply it to their world.

You guys are acting like oil is going to end the day after Biden is elected. An idea so dumb, I don't know where to even start debunking.

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We all know the only way it will work is by slowly transitioning away from it as new technologies are developed and the costs are reduced to the point that they are feasible.

5 years doesn't sound like that though..and Biden said, has plan was carbon neutral by 2025. Then he said 2035....so which is it ? And it's pretty much impossible to put a date to it. A break through in clean energy could happen in 2 days or 50 years.... there is no guessing on when. As long as we work towards it, without being forced, without crashing the economy , and without killing peoples pocket books it should be good.


So now it's a "very long time"....this guy is all over the place.

“We’ll get rid of the subsidies of fossil fuels, but we’re not getting rid of fossil fuels for a very long time,” he said.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/bi...n-fossil-fuels
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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They'll survive. I'm not all that concerned about the big oil companies.they're not going to actually implement these restrictive policies you realize thats just all talk to pander to the environmentalist vote.

Plus Eddie above me makes a good point. The frackers really aren't making much money at these prices. Maybe paying more for gas and energy will help encourage growth into the green sectors.

You really thing that makes electricity cheaper Fracking and cheap Natural gas that's what keeps the cost of electricity down. Not that other crap......If he wins I hope he stops drilling and fracking overnight! Nothing to fuel the fires of revolt like some blackouts!
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:19 PM
 
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thats called supply and demand. i wonder if we look at your assets and income we can all determine that you have way to much and are paid way too much. After all its you just being "greedy". I am sure in your infinite compassion and drive to be fair you will happily share all you have with those poorer then you are. i remember those Wall Street protestors in "occupy wall Street" with their 1k iPhone and other expensive electronics protesting wealthy wall street. it's almost laughable.
Oh yes, Occupy Wall Street where they were against the Bail Outs and Corruption.

Obama the "Liberal" gave the finger to the protesters and bailed out the bankers


So much for Free Market Capitalism eh?

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Old 10-25-2020, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The rolling blackouts is the fault of the privately run PG&E. It has nothing to do with California or green energy.

Your argument is akin to blaming Louisiana for the BP oil spill.

If you are going to talk about an issue, at least be informed about it.

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The reason is the state of California mandated that AB32 required that 50 percent of California’s electricity to be powered by wind and solar by 2025, that is 50%.. half... and 60 percent by 2030, and then ending in 100 percent wind and solar energy by 2045. Good luck with that.. Wind and solar.. these nuts will never learn.
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Florida
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They'll survive. I'm not all that concerned about the big oil companies.they're not going to actually implement these restrictive policies you realize thats just all talk to pander to the environmentalist vote.

Plus Eddie above me makes a good point. The frackers really aren't making much money at these prices. Maybe paying more for gas and energy will help encourage growth into the green sectors.
California mandated that 50% of their electric would come from wind and solar.. good luck with that. No sun at night and the wind has to blow everyday.
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Good, what's the problem?

Old tech becomes obsolete and dies.
So , you want to go back to the stone age. This will happen depending on wind and solar to run electric cars, turn on the lights. California is struggling now.
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Right, I guess they forgot that the economy flourished under Democratic leadership and has had it’s worse failures under Republicans. Stop being stupid people.
obama has the slowest recovery. The dems wanted everyone to own a home even if they could not afford it. Barney Frank backed it and millons of homes never saw the first mortgage payment and the banks were all bailed out by Obama.


Biden has to lie on his ads , telling lie after lie . Biden says he will cover preexisting conditions while Trump is already covering preexisting conditions and will continue. Biden has to lie about Trump cutting social security , yet Biden was the one to talk about cutting Social Security.


Biden is a typical politician who can't run on the truth. Trump keeps his promises. Biden says no fracking. Then says I didn't say that . The guy talks out of both sides of his mouth constantly.


If you have a 401K or a pension plan, it will be cut under Biden . The stock market will take a huge hit because Biden wants to kill American companies and ship them to China. The globalists love him. Biden is NOT FOR AMERICANS. Never was. Never did a thing for blacks. Put them in jail and made them serve 75% of their sentences for non -violent crimes.



Kamala put 1900 black men in prison for drugs . We know what they are capable of. Kamala is farther left than 'communist Bernie.
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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For ONE hour it was 100% supplied by solar. You should try reading the articles you link.
And I guarandamtee you the Australia interconnected grid was still connected holding up SA's voltage with fossil fuels...
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Old 10-26-2020, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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The right-wing cannot argue without invoking a fantastically unrealistic doom day scenario. They watch Hollywood sci-fi and apply it to their world.

You guys are acting like oil is going to end the day after Biden is elected. An idea so dumb, I don't know where to even start debunking.

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Do you think electricity is made from oil?
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Old 10-28-2020, 11:07 PM
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I can see nuclear being brought up For discussion again in 4-5 yrs..
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