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Giuliani's reaction after knowing Biden had been proclaimed the winner by newspapers and TV networks (regardless of political leanings, one has to agree it is not up to the media to proclaim election results, especially if they have been judicially challenged):
Did Trump wait until the certified state counts were released in 2016 to declare himself the winner?
OR
Did he go with the projected winner that was put out by the media?
We all know that Trump could never be a loser. He's always a winner .Trump can take lemons and make lemonade any day of the week. Never underestimate the genius of Donald J Trump.
Did Trump wait until the certified state counts were released in 2016 to declare himself the winner? OR Did he go with the projected winner that was put out by the media?
I see it as stating his position. And so is Joe Biden now. That's ok. I'm referring to the newspapers and TV networks. It is not up to them to decide who is the winner as they have done today. Not up to foreign leaders either.
Funny how you all think the media and states under litigation can call presidential victory for a candidate.
They can't.
You're lying to yourselves if you don't think this isn't going to the supreme court with mounting evidence. My prediction stands: Trump will get his second term.
Oh wow the news media corrupt news media hahaha. They declare Biden as the winner months and months and months ago even before he was ever a candidate. This is because mainstream media could elect a ham sandwich. This actually would be more appealing then Joe Biden
Giuliani's reaction after knowing Biden had been proclaimed the winner by newspapers and TV networks (regardless of political leanings, one has to agree it is not up to the media to proclaim election results, especially if they have been judicially challenged):
The media doesn't make up the numbers. They report the numbers. Which in this case, Biden got more votes than Trump and is therefore the winner. That is how it has been through every election.
Oh wow the news media corrupt news media hahaha. They declare Biden as the winner months and months and months ago even before he was ever a candidate. This is because mainstream media could elect a ham sandwich. This actually would be more appealing then Joe Biden
The media doesn't decide the winner. The votes do and Biden got more votes than Trump in popular vote and electoral vote. So WTF are you talking about.
You seem to think the Supreme Court is eager to get into this fight.
They’re not.
Yep. Bush V. Gore was about the Florida recount and ballots. This is about conjecture and conspiracy theory rather than true hard facts. The SCOTUS would need to usurp the will of the people. I HIGHLY doubt they'd do that. Remember, Bush won Bush V. Gore since Bush had won the Florida popular vote, arguably due to the hanging chads on the punch cards.
Democracy is fueled by faith and belief in the legitimacy of the system. Trump has done everything he could do to pollute the system.
The American people fired the most corrupted, the most indecent, the most incompetent president in American history. The most lethal president in history has been removed from power.
History will vilify the Trump presidency as a fluke. He and his corrupt family will be viewed as Benedict Arnold's of our time.
American democracy has been renewed. Long live freedom and the American way of life.
Trump doesn't only have to prove that there were fraudulent votes, and conditions for permitting fraudulent votes.
He has to prove that there were ENOUGH fraudulent votes to change the electoral outcome in several states (PA, AZ, GA etc.) from "Biden wins" to "Trump wins".
Can he prove that many fraudulent votes?
Keep in mind that most evidence for such fraudulent votes is gone. Envelopes the mail-in ballots, which had the names, addresses, signatures and postmarks on them, have been separated from the ballots they held, making it impossible to tell if they held a Biden vote or a Trump vote. Republican witnessing of the opening of the envelopes in places like Philadelphia, Detroit etc. was effectively blocked, preventing anyone from seeing or proving that anyone slipped in a phony or altered ballot or six.
Trump will be unable to prove any of those things, even if they did happen in sufficient quantities to swing a state's vote count by 30,000 or whatever margin Biden is currently said to have in the state.
How, exactly, will Trump manage to prove, in court, that these fraudulent ballots were created and counted, in sufficient quantities?
Last edited by Roboteer; 11-07-2020 at 10:16 PM..
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The media doesn't make up the numbers. They report the numbers. Which in this case, Biden got more votes than Trump and is therefore the winner. That is how it has been through every election.
