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The director of the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) called the rumors "nonsense."
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What Trump allies tend to leave out, however, is that Montgomery has a long history of making outlandish claims that fail to come true. As an intelligence contractor at the height of the War on Terror, Montgomery was behind what’s been called “one of the most elaborate and dangerous hoaxes in American history,” churning out allegedly fictitious data that once prompted the Bush administration to consider shooting down airplanes.
And now, Trump allies want voters to believe Montgomery’s claims about the election.
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In 2006, Montgomery claimed that he had emails showing that Nevada Gov. Jim Gibbons was guilty of bribery. According to USA Today, the Justice Department cleared Gibbons of wrongdoing after a computer expert cast doubt on the authenticity of the emails that had been provided by Montgomery.
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Montgomery was also accused of deceptive practices in 2014 when he claimed to have evidence of a conspiracy against Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio. U.S. District Court Judge G. Murray Snow found that Montgomery’s evidence amounted to “junk,” and Arpaio agreed.
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Mr. Montgomery was arrested on charges that he had written $1 million in bad checks at a Las Vegas casino. A court hearing is scheduled for Aug. 12. He filed for personal bankruptcy that year, over mounting gambling debts.
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Despite Montgomery’s history of deception, his claims about Hammer and Scorecard transitioned from the fringes to the mainstream when Fox News’ Lou Dobbs interviewed Sidney Powell, the attorney for former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn, on Fox Business.
Powell said:
“I think there are any number of things they need to investigate, including the likelihood that 3 percent of the vote total was changed in the pre-election voting ballots that were collected digitally by using the Hammer program and the software program called Scorecard. That would have amounted to a massive change in the vote.”
Trump is like the boy who cried wolf. He claimed fraud before the last election, then suddenly shut up about it when he ended up winning. He cried fraud before this election even happened. It’s like, if you really believed there was fraud in 2016, why wasn’t it worth investigating just because you won? I mean, he knew he was going to run again so if he really thought it was an issue, he should have proven it with his actions and he didn’t. So now, it’s like here we go again. The whole narrative just seems like a lazily concocted plan B. One he didn’t need in 2016, and one that’s not really working for him in 2020.
For five months we watched the Democrat-Media complex excuse, encourage, provide financing, deflect or ignore mobs of fellow travelers who burned, looted, destroyed, assaulted and murdered their fellow citizens. Of course they don't care if the election was fraudulent. Why would we expect them to if they either didn't care or actually supported domestic terrorism?
Trump is like the boy who cried wolf. He claimed fraud before the last election, then suddenly shut up about it when he ended up winning. He cried fraud before this election even happened. It’s like, if you really believed there was fraud in 2016, why wasn’t it worth investigating just because you won? I mean, he knew he was going to run again so if he really thought it was an issue, he should have proven it with his actions and he didn’t. So now, it’s like here we go again. The whole narrative just seems like a lazily concocted plan B. One he didn’t need in 2016, and one that’s not really working for him in 2020.
You don’t remember HRC paying Jill Stein millions to contest the 2016 results in PA and MI? The funny part was when a federal judge friendly to Clinton had to step in and halt the recounts in Detroit because they started to uncover evidence of voter fraud by the Dems. Karma, sweet karma.
You don’t remember HRC paying Jill Stein millions to contest the 2016 results in PA and MI? The funny part was when a federal judge friendly to Clinton had to step in and halt the recounts in Detroit because they started to uncover evidence of voter fraud by the Dems. Karma, sweet karma.
I have no problem if Trump wants to exhaust whatever legal avenues he has left for a recount. I’m just saying... he’s been making these voter fraud claims since before the 2016 election.
Here’s one of his “dead people voting” theories from October 2016:
As to your claim about voter fraud in Detroit in 2016, where’s the evidence? And if there is evidence, why the heck did Trump do nothing about it? Why didn’t he push for any investigations back then? If he thought there was widespread fraud in the largest city in a crucial swing state, why on earth has he been twiddling his thumbs on it for the past four years?
The Dems politicized Covid to force mail in ballots and attempt to make Trump look incompetent. They did all that and look how close PA, AZ and GA are. Is it a stretch to think they didn’t have a backup plan if that wasn’t enough. It looks like Philadelphia did some dirty to get those votes for Trump. If I where them, that’s exactly the place I would try to do it, Detroit, Milwaukee and Atlanta being next.
Arizona is Biden’s only saving grace imo and unfortunately would put him in the White House. That’s only because I can’t fathom how the dems could have pulled off a large scale scam there. Though I could see Arizona’s business powers trying it.
The Dems politicized Covid to force mail in ballots and attempt to make Trump look incompetent. They did all that and look how close PA, AZ and GA are. Is it a stretch to think they didn’t have a backup plan if that wasn’t enough. It looks like Philadelphia did some dirty to get those votes for Trump. If I where them, that’s exactly the place I would try to do it, Detroit, Milwaukee and Atlanta being next.
Arizona is Biden’s only saving grace imo and unfortunately would put him in the White House. That’s only because I can’t fathom how the dems could have pulled off a large scale scam there. Though I could see Arizona’s business powers trying it.
Flip side to my previous point - if the Dems had really managed such an elaborate multi state conspiracy to lock Trump out of the White House, why weren’t they able to pull it off in 2016? I mean... Trump was no less reviled back then. Trump would have us believe he was on to them in 2016 but then he won, did nothing about it, and the narrative disappeared. Which is a bit odd, considering the fact that if there was widespread fraud, maybe he really could have locked Hillary up. Makes you wonder if Trump himself believed, and believes, it.
I care a lot. I also remember that Trump alleged the 2016 election was rigged. He never charged or arrested anyone for that. He let four years go by. He's either a failure to protect our democracy, or he's crying wolf.
I care a lot. I also remember that Trump alleged the 2016 election was rigged. He never charged or arrested anyone for that. He let four years go by. He's either a failure to protect our democracy, or he's crying wolf.
Exactly - that’s what I’ve been saying. It’s either one or the other. It’s a serious allegation to attack the integrity of our voting system, but it’s something Trump has been doing for years. It was reckless for him to have wasted four years ignoring this issue if he truly had reason to believe the system was rigged. He did all of us, including his supporters, a huge disservice considering his position of immense power to investigate this issue. And it just now is being meaningfully investigated with lawsuits, etc? Now that this power has been taken away?
Exactly - that’s what I’ve been saying. It’s either one or the other. It’s a serious allegation to attack the integrity of our voting system, but it’s something Trump has been doing for years. It was criminally negligent for him to have wasted four years ignoring this issue if he truly believed the system was rigged. He did all of us, including his supporters, a huge disservice considering his position of immense power to investigate this issue. And it just now is being meaningfully investigated with lawsuits, etc? Now that this power has been taken away?
He was kind of busy with the Democrat-Media Complex's Russian collusion conspiracy theory.
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