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Michigan is averaging almost 7,000 cases a day and the legislatures plan is to block new restrictions, do these people talk to hospitals or do they just make this up in a closet. This is patently dumb, how about showing some leadersip or do they want to end up back where they were in April.
You're not going to stop this virus until there's a vaccine. Shutdowns, no shutdowns, Thanksgiving, no Thanksgiving, dining in, dining out, not dining in, not dining out, wearing masks, not wearing masks. Old man Biden in charge, Trump in charge, doesn't make a bit of difference.
"Complete" social distancing is the only thing that works, and it's simply not practical. This is not China, we're not locking people in their houses for a month.
She was elected in 2018 as part of the "eww Trump" movement among suburban women. Michigan deserves to have her majesty rule them for another two years. If you boot her now, she'll just be rewarded with a cushy job in the Biden administration. If Republicans put their heads down and do the work, they can hand her a humiliating electoral defeat in the Red Wave of 2022.
You're not going to stop this virus until there's a vaccine. Shutdowns, no shutdowns, Thanksgiving, no Thanksgiving, dining in, dining out, not dining in, not dining out, wearing masks, not wearing masks. Old man Biden in charge, Trump in charge, doesn't make a bit of difference.
"Complete" social distancing is the only thing that works, and it's simply not practical. This is not China, we're not locking people in their houses for a month.
We need to get through the next few months before the vaccine is taking effect. Removing restrictions on restaurants, gyms would add to casualties. One of the largest spreaders are private gatherings, people need to use common sense.
We need to get through the next few months before the vaccine is taking effect. Removing restrictions on restaurants, gyms would add to casualties. One of the largest spreaders are private gatherings, people need to use common sense.
As you've probably figured out by now, I am a personal responsibility kind of a guy.
To each their own. If people feel safe gatehring in groups - then do it. If not, then stay isolated.
-April, Whitmer requires nursing homes with 80% or less capacity to take in Covid-19 patients or keep ones that they have.
-May 13, the Detroit News reports that Republicans are pressing Whitmer about the dangerous executive order requiring some nursing homes to take in or keep Covid-19 patients.
-May 19, The Detroit News urged Whitmer to change her policy, stating that there was mounting evidence that her policy was killing people in nursing homes.
-June 24, the Detroit News states that Whitmer must answer questions about her nursing home policy as deaths mount that she has thus far dodged. On March 13, the CEO of the Health Care Association of Michigan told Whitmer that she needed to not allow Covid-19 patients into nursing homes. Whitmer rejected this advice and an issued an executive order that required facilities at less than 80% capacity to take in Covid-19 patients starting in mid-April.
The Detroit News reported that Whitmer contended that there wasn't enough time to set up or find separate facilities and she refused to participate in a Republican led effort in the spring to change this policy and find a solution. Whitmer claimed that the Republicans were simply being partisan. Whitmer refused to answer questions from the Detroit News on her nursing home policy.
-July 31, the Detroit News reported that Whitmer had vetoed a GOP bill to direct Covid-19 patients away from or out of nursing homes. Whitmer claimed that it was a false premise that the nursing homes weren't equipped to handle a highly contagious disease.
Every state that had a similar policy to Whitmer's had already shifted to a different policy at this point, the Detroit News reported. She will continue this policy more than a full 2 months after all the other states had stopped it due to obvious reasons.
-August 5, the Detroit News urges Whitmer once again to change her nursing home policy as deaths continue to happen in nursing homes. The Detroit News states that now 17 (of 52) Democrats and 58 (of 58) Republicans in the state house and 2 (of 16) Democrats and 22 (of 22) Republicans in the state Senate passed a bill to end the policy - Whitmer vetoed the bill.
Following the veto 13 House Democrats signed a Republican Resolution outright condemning Whitmer's refusal to change her deadly policy. Whitmer continues to claim that this is partisan Republican attacks and that some people don't like strong women.
-August 31, the Detroit News reports that Whitmer's own taskforce urges her to change Michigan's Covid-19 nursing home policies.
September 30, The Detroit News reports that Whitmer announces that she will finally shift her policy on nursing homes not giving in to Republican urges for separate facilities, but mandating that nursing homes have distinct Covid areas with distinct staff for that area of the facility starting in October.
Michigan still has the second highest Covid-19 death rate in the Midwest.
At least 2,154 nursing home patients in Michigan have died, but it could be higher as the state data is poor and the Republicans in the state congress can't get good access to definitive data.
The fact that Democrats can look at all of the facts and blame Trump for Whitmer's idiocy and then even nod their head in agreement when Whitmer refuses to answer questions on her deadly policy while playing the victim by claiming that it is about her being a strong woman - proves how mindless Americans have become to their party shepherds.
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Originally Posted by hooligan
And what should have been done with nursing home residents that had COVID but didn't need hospitalization?
I knew you were partisan, but I never had you pegged as a polical sheep.
You can look through all of the facts and think Whitmer is not at fault?
Republicans from the start wanted seperate facilities, she said it would take to long to set up. Well she kept her policy for half a year, a full two months after all other states had stopped.
Michigan is averaging almost 7,000 cases a day and the legislatures plan is to block new restrictions, do these people talk to hospitals or do they just make this up in a closet. This is patently dumb, how about showing some leadersip or do they want to end up back where they were in April.
Cases. You do realize that 99.9% of those cases will have zero to minimal symptoms, nothing beyond a slight sniffle.
It's mind blowing to me that people are falling for this. Cases - it's not deaths, it's not people in the hospital on ventilators, it's not people fighting for their lives. It'e merely cases.
I could test positive for the flu. That doesn't mean it's a death sentence, or that I would have severe symptoms. I might feel "meh" for a day.
I remember, back in the day, (2019 and before), when people still went to work when they felt "meh", or had the sniffles, or a light cough. In fact, employers demanded that if you had no sick days left (that most used when they just didn't feel like coming in), you were to come in. And people would work, in their offices with air that is re-cycled throughout the office.
But now, here we have another virus that is not unlike the flu, no matter how many screech that "it's not the flu!!", because the majority of people will not even feel a thing. Just like the flu, it can lead to pneumonia and can cause issues for those who are much older, and those who already had a weakened immune system.
The world never went hysterical over the millions of deaths each year from the flu. The world didn't shuffle around like sheep with masks on because of flu season. (Which, by the way, had more deaths in 2020 than Covid did during flu season. Did CNN tell you that? I'll bet they didn't.)
People are living their lives in fear, looking to the government to save them, all for something that 99.9% of people won't even suffer from other than an alleged positive test. And that test, apparently, may or may not actually be correct. Elon Musk got some of the finger waggers to attack him when he stated he went in and got 4 tests from the same place, same time, same nurse, same everything - and I believe it was 2 of the 4 came out positive, the other 2 came out negative. Did you know a pomegranate can test positive for covid?
The tests are not reliable, but who cares, if it stirs up hysteria in the masses, they will continue to be used. And the msm is doing their part by continuing to present "cases", allowing people to believe that every "case" means "certain death".
And the people fall for it.
And they fall for the mask wearing - it doesn't protect against viruses. It says right on the box that the mask does not protect against viruses, including Corona.
I knew you were partisan, but I never had you pegged as a polical sheep.
You can look through all of the facts and think Whitmer is not at fault?
Republicans from the start wanted seperate facilities, she said it would take to long to set up. Well she kept her policy for half a year, a full two months after all other states had stopped.
Whitmer has blood on her hands if Trump does.
Save the histrionics and name calling, please.
...In the April 2020 COVID-19 surge in Michigan, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services contracted with 21 nursing home “hubs” to help care for COVID-19 patients transferred from other nursing homes or discharged from hospitals and in need of nursing home-level care. The hubs were required to meet a number of quality and safety indicators and to have enough room to isolate and care for COVID-19 infected residents away from the general population.
CHRT found that, overall, Michigan’s hub strategy performed well. The percentage of deaths among nursing home residents with COVID-19 was considerably lower in Michigan’s nursing home hubs than in the state’s non-hub nursing homes: 17.4 percent in hubs compared to 26 percent in non-hubs. CHRT also found that Michigan’s nursing home residents constituted a smaller proportion of overall COVID-19 deaths than the U.S. average, with Michigan nursing home resident deaths making up 33.2 percent of all COVID-related mortalities in the state, versus 38.6 percent across the rest of the country...
Cases. You do realize that 99.9% of those cases will have zero to minimal symptoms, nothing beyond a slight sniffle.
It's mind blowing to me that people are falling for this. Cases - it's not deaths, it's not people in the hospital on ventilators, it's not people fighting for their lives. It'e merely cases.
I could test positive for the flu. That doesn't mean it's a death sentence, or that I would have severe symptoms. I might feel "meh" for a day.
I remember, back in the day, (2019 and before), when people still went to work when they felt "meh", or had the sniffles, or a light cough. In fact, employers demanded that if you had no sick days left (that most used when they just didn't feel like coming in), you were to come in. And people would work, in their offices with air that is re-cycled throughout the office.
But now, here we have another virus that is not unlike the flu, no matter how many screech that "it's not the flu!!", because the majority of people will not even feel a thing. Just like the flu, it can lead to pneumonia and can cause issues for those who are much older, and those who already had a weakened immune system.
The world never went hysterical over the millions of deaths each year from the flu. The world didn't shuffle around like sheep with masks on because of flu season. (Which, by the way, had more deaths in 2020 than Covid did during flu season. Did CNN tell you that? I'll bet they didn't.)
People are living their lives in fear, looking to the government to save them, all for something that 99.9% of people won't even suffer from other than an alleged positive test. And that test, apparently, may or may not actually be correct. Elon Musk got some of the finger waggers to attack him when he stated he went in and got 4 tests from the same place, same time, same nurse, same everything - and I believe it was 2 of the 4 came out positive, the other 2 came out negative. Did you know a pomegranate can test positive for covid?
The tests are not reliable, but who cares, if it stirs up hysteria in the masses, they will continue to be used. And the msm is doing their part by continuing to present "cases", allowing people to believe that every "case" means "certain death".
And the people fall for it.
And they fall for the mask wearing - it doesn't protect against viruses. It says right on the box that the mask does not protect against viruses, including Corona.
"Cases" - boy, they got you hooked, don't they?
An increase in hospitalizations follows an increase in infections, hospitals are filling up in Michigan. So do you want to ignore this and go back to April or do you want to do something about it. So masks don't work, tests are unreliable and this is just hysteria according to you. We had more deaths yesterday (740) than the next two countries (India and Brazil) combined but you see no reason to worry.
You really need to stop comparing this to the flu, it's multiple times more deadly and contagious.
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