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When lines are hours long in some areas and people have jobs it isn't about life skills or competence. If you are out of state or out of country for work it is not about life skills or competence. If you are ill or home bound it is not about life skills or competence.
Didn't read the OP, did we?
Or are you simply being childishly argumentative, pretending the issues you mentioned haven't already been addressed?
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Originally Posted by Roboteer
So you missed all the times when people tried to file their taxes, only to be told that someone had already filed taxes in their name and gotten a sizeable refund? And that, when investigated, they found most of the info supplied by the faker was also bogus, claiming large overpayments that the Fed now "owed" them, so the Fed paid?
You missed ALL that?
In other words, we should all risk the integrity of our elections on your being ignorant?
Well, what I found searching was many scams led to fake websites where filers took no pains to verify them. What do you have that says differently? And that voting online would be any more questionable than other methods. Let's hear some facts, IF you have any.
24 hour vote in person cycle. Mail in solely for those bound to wheelchairs, or overseas for military service.
Is there some reason you didn't mention absentee ballots, as described in the OP?
As I said there, absentee ballots aren't perfect. But they are MUCH better than these blind "mail-in ballots" that anybody can scoop up truckloads of (or print their own in quantities), for the reasons described in the OP.
24 hour voting period. No poll workers needed. You go up to the machine, place your hand on it and it verifies you and that you are registered. Then you vote using the computer and receive a paper receipt.
And you can be completely confident that that machine could never be creatively mis-programmed, maybe switching every tenth vote from your candidate to the other guy even as it prints out the receipt saying you voted for your candidate. Or maybe just fails to register every 13th vote... especially if the people you voted for, aren't the ones that the people running the machines, like.
BTW, can a person counting paper ballots that you hand-marked, do that without being noticed? Assuming, of course, that the ballot boxes were locked and guarded as the should be. And the people watching the counters from your party, aren't pushed back 20 feet away to where they can't see what's on the ballot.
All those things have happened in this Nov. 3 election, and been documented.
You guys won’t have COVID as an excuse next time.
They won’t need it. We are now over 2 weeks after the Election and more “Irregularities” In multiple States are revealed every day. WHY would the Left give up a sure win in the future if these irregularities stand?
There are 2 types of Fraud at Issue :
1). Voter Fraud (dead people, multiple votes, out of State, Bogus Registrations )
2). Election Fraud - (Vote Counting, vote switching, no verification, late votes, vote dumping
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Originally Posted by BeerGeek40
Why would the democrats have ANY incentive to change the rules on anything?
Not only is there no incentive to guarantee a Legal and Fair Election .... they will continue to battle against Audits and any Verification. Trust is Lost.
The Loudest Voices in the USA today are Unified around one Message - no recounts, no investigation
They ignore just about 1/2 the Voters. Biden could Fix this IF he really stood by his claim of UNIFY.
it pretty much says it all that he won’t do that. Americans have the absolute Right to expect Fair Elections.
What's so hard about proving something was counted? So the public has indisputable evidence that counts are accurate? We could hand over voting to an accounting firm? How about PricewaterhouseCoopers, the firm that counts the Academy Awards votes? About 8,469 eligible votes. Would you trust them?
I don't even trust them. If they count in secret and don't show the proof of each count, I don't trust it. It's that simple.
Since election votes are tallied at precincts, which are added together to total the county votes, we need to make 100% sure the counting at all the precincts is accurate. And provable to the public. That means counting ballots must done in public view. Allowing the public to watch every vote count. You know what that means? That means votes must be counted one by one at a precinct!
Why do you have to count votes on a ballot one by one? Because you have to know the tally of each ballot, from the first, to last.
Counting in public is the ONLY way to have a fraud proof voting system that the public will trust. Because counting one by one in public view, and on camera, is proof of count accuracy that the public can trust.
But also, casting the vote must be done in public as well. Currently we cast votes and count votes in separate places, and out of public view. That can cause serious problems.
Say in a televised football game when a touchdown is scored the scoreboard added 5 points, not 6. Not only would the fans in attendance see the mistake, the tv viewing audience would see the mistake. And it's on video copies everywhere. Suppose the game continued without correcting the scoreboard, and the team lost by one point because of the mistake? That would not happen because fans of the team would not let that happen. And they would have video proof of the scoreboard error.
Or what if there was no scoreboard at a football game, and only the officials kept score on paper pads. And told the final score only at the end of the game. Would you trust it? No. You would verify the score. To create trust, the score is displayed in LARGE NUMBERS on huge scoreboards so everyone can see the current score, and that every point was added correctly.
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