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Mail-in voting was so successful and free of problems this time, by the next presidential election, all the states will probably be using it exclusively, as they have in Oregon for several election cycles.
But there was no fraud. You keep making all the claims, but we all know you can’t even furnish the hard evidence. The only thing we see evidence of is that you spread lies about "fraud" when things don't go your way, which is an attempt to subvert elections - which means YOU ARE against the Constitution.
Of course there was fraud. There is ALWAYS fraud. The question is was it so much worse this year that it had a significant result on the election.
At the minimum, it will be revealed that Dominion System should be disallowed in the future, as it has been used to switch votes In corrupt countries like Venezuela. (Even Warren and Kloubacher questioned their reliability.) Also, going forward, there will be a relief shift at the ready so that the counting doesn’t stop mid-stream. This excuse that the counters were tired is pretty transparent.
Mail-in voting was so successful and free of problems this time, by the next presidential election, all the states will probably be using it exclusively, as they have in Oregon for several election cycles.
Free of problems? Ha.
You guys won’t have COVID as an excuse next time.
No mail-in voting except Absentee voting, where the voter has to request a ballot and specify the address they should send it to, a serial number on the absentee ballot that matches the one on the envelope.
No computerized ballots. Electromechanical counting is OK for speed, but the vote is not certified until every paper ballot is visually counted. Yes, get ready to hire a BUNCH of vote-counters, and supervisors, secure elections done right ain't cheap.
If a person can't get to the polls on election day, he can give his ballot to a trusted person (spouse, sibling, of-age descendent, whoever he wants. He must fill out a form listing his name, address, and who he wants to bring in his ballot; and he and the trusted person must both sign it. (California does this already.) It's up to each voter to be responsible enough to get their ballot to the polls on Election Day. All ballots must be in the polling place or Registrar's office by midnight on Election Day. Any ballot arriving after that time will be discarded.
Military, diplomatic etc. personnel stationed overseas on duty, must hand their ballot to a govt official (superior officer, embassy office etc.) in time for it to arrive at their home state's registrar by Election Day. These are the ONLY ballots permitted to arrive before Election Day. Designated officers must get such ballots to their destination as quickly as possible, in time for the election.
When you go to the polls to vote, you must show govt-issued photo ID. States or Feds must issue a suitable Photo ID (Driver's license or standard state ID or passport etc.) to any eligible person for free.
If your ballot is damaged, or you accidentally marked the wrong box or whatever, poll workers will have blank "provisional ballots" available. At the polling place, you give your damaged ballot to the poll worker and tell him what happened, and he will tear it up in front of your eyes, and give you the blank provisional ballot. You must mark the ballot and get it in to a polling place by midnight on Election day.
Yes, I know, this won't be as easy and freewheeling as the vote-anytime-anywhere-get-it-in-by-any-uncontrolled-and-unsupervised-method-you-like deal we have today. This is the first time we had such loose, uncontrolled handling of ballots. Strictly controlling it as described above, used to be the norm. It's still not foolproof, or Democrat-proof, but it's much harder to cheat, than today's grotesquely uncontrolled version.
The idea is, the ballot is NEVER out of your control, from the time the poll worker hands it to you, until the time you mark it and hand it back. And he then puts it in the ballot box before your eyes.
Ballot boxes are strictly controlled, too. every time a ballot box changes hands, paperwork goes with it, with the giver and the receiver each signing the custody form. They weigh the box, note any possible damage to the box, record it, and pass it on. This is a standard way to handle classified documents in the military (and I would guess in diplomatic circles), and should be adhered to.
Sure, it's a hassle. If you don't like it, go work for the Post Office or UPS or your local Boy Scout troop instead. The goal (as it has been for centuries, until just recently when Democrats had major reasons for wanting to cheat) is to keep ballots secure, and make sure that what each citizen put on his ballot, is what winds up getting counted for him.
That's what the next major election should be like.
And the first election to do it that way, should be the runoff elections for Senator in Georgia on Jan. 5, 2021.
Count on the Democrats screaming bloody murder over that idea, of course. They'll swear up and down there's not enough time to prepare, not enough time to print and distribute ballots, too diffucult for states to change from whatever method they've used in the past (Often Dominion voting machines), not enough time to train people to help voters with voting, you name it. Most of which is laughable false, and all of which CAN be done in the next month and a half.
But they will come up with every excuse in the book, except the real reason they don't want to do the Jan. 5 election that way: It's WAY too hard to cheat in the volumes they need to win.
Which is exactly why the elections SHOULD be held that way.
What would you like to see the next major election do? Reasons for, reasons against?
Why would the democrats have ANY incentive to change the rules on anything?
You guys won’t have COVID as an excuse next time.
They may still have it or another Virus or maybe they will revert back to Man Made Climate Change and tell us it is too dangerous for the climate to drive to the polls or work.
They may still have it or another Virus or maybe they will revert back to Man Made Climate Change and tell us it is too dangerous for the climate to drive to the polls or work.
That's correct Pilot. The democrats just figured out how to never lose again.
Do you think there is any value in having a consistent approach (States voluntarily agreeing so of course, no "rights" being trampled) across the Country though?
Like an agreement? A compact, maybe? Call it a Compact...maybe something to do with the popular vote?
Since it's interstate, add the word Interstate....
Something called, perhaps, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, where states voluntarily agree to be bound by the will of the overall electorate?
Great idea! Let's go for it. Thanks for supporting this, Aussiehoff!
No mail-in voting except Absentee voting, where the voter has to request a ballot and specify the address they should send it to, a serial number on the absentee ballot that matches the one on the envelope.
No computerized ballots. Electromechanical counting is OK for speed, but the vote is not certified until every paper ballot is visually counted. Yes, get ready to hire a BUNCH of vote-counters, and supervisors, secure elections done right ain't cheap.
If a person can't get to the polls on election day, he can give his ballot to a trusted person (spouse, sibling, of-age descendent, whoever he wants. He must fill out a form listing his name, address, and who he wants to bring in his ballot; and he and the trusted person must both sign it. (California does this already.) It's up to each voter to be responsible enough to get their ballot to the polls on Election Day. All ballots must be in the polling place or Registrar's office by midnight on Election Day. Any ballot arriving after that time will be discarded.
Military, diplomatic etc. personnel stationed overseas on duty, must hand their ballot to a govt official (superior officer, embassy office etc.) in time for it to arrive at their home state's registrar by Election Day. These are the ONLY ballots permitted to arrive before Election Day. Designated officers must get such ballots to their destination as quickly as possible, in time for the election.
When you go to the polls to vote, you must show govt-issued photo ID. States or Feds must issue a suitable Photo ID (Driver's license or standard state ID or passport etc.) to any eligible person for free.
If your ballot is damaged, or you accidentally marked the wrong box or whatever, poll workers will have blank "provisional ballots" available. At the polling place, you give your damaged ballot to the poll worker and tell him what happened, and he will tear it up in front of your eyes, and give you the blank provisional ballot. You must mark the ballot and get it in to a polling place by midnight on Election day.
Yes, I know, this won't be as easy and freewheeling as the vote-anytime-anywhere-get-it-in-by-any-uncontrolled-and-unsupervised-method-you-like deal we have today. This is the first time we had such loose, uncontrolled handling of ballots. Strictly controlling it as described above, used to be the norm. It's still not foolproof, or Democrat-proof, but it's much harder to cheat, than today's grotesquely uncontrolled version.
The idea is, the ballot is NEVER out of your control, from the time the poll worker hands it to you, until the time you mark it and hand it back. And he then puts it in the ballot box before your eyes.
Ballot boxes are strictly controlled, too. every time a ballot box changes hands, paperwork goes with it, with the giver and the receiver each signing the custody form. They weigh the box, note any possible damage to the box, record it, and pass it on. This is a standard way to handle classified documents in the military (and I would guess in diplomatic circles), and should be adhered to.
Sure, it's a hassle. If you don't like it, go work for the Post Office or UPS or your local Boy Scout troop instead. The goal (as it has been for centuries, until just recently when Democrats had major reasons for wanting to cheat) is to keep ballots secure, and make sure that what each citizen put on his ballot, is what winds up getting counted for him.
That's what the next major election should be like.
And the first election to do it that way, should be the runoff elections for Senator in Georgia on Jan. 5, 2021.
Count on the Democrats screaming bloody murder over that idea, of course. They'll swear up and down there's not enough time to prepare, not enough time to print and distribute ballots, too diffucult for states to change from whatever method they've used in the past (Often Dominion voting machines), not enough time to train people to help voters with voting, you name it. Most of which is laughable false, and all of which CAN be done in the next month and a half.
But they will come up with every excuse in the book, except the real reason they don't want to do the Jan. 5 election that way: It's WAY too hard to cheat in the volumes they need to win.
Which is exactly why the elections SHOULD be held that way.
What would you like to see the next major election do? Reasons for, reasons against?
It’s fine how it is. Get out of your echo chambers.
I like what my state did this year: lots of options of early, in-person voting. There's no reason that people should be subjected to trying to fit in voting all in one day. This unfairly harms working people who can't get to the polls between a set amount of time and it's stupid to have to stand in line for this for hours. Voting should be relatively easy to do. I do think think, though, that all states should be able to verify the early mail in votes and start counting as they receive them.
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