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The United States is having an explosion in cases this year with cases topping over 100k per day. Hospitals are being overran, and many states are running out of beds. Simply put, the virus is out of control. Now here is the issue for the Holiday season if people are determined to celebrate those Holidays with large families.
1) A massive increase in travel will expand the virus across the United States. As a result more states and areas will be infected.
2) Hospital beds are running out in many states, and the need to triage patients or deny treatment may be put into place.
3) Cold and flu season has started and will also spread along with the coronavirus. In 2019 alone, over 400k people were hospitalized from the flu. That means hundreds of thousands beds will not be available for COVID patients because they are treating people with the flu.
This is why the scientific community is warning people not to go out for the Holidays. It is to prevent the system from collapsing, not some deep state takeover.
The measures to mitigate COVID-19 will also prevent flu, if people will just use them.
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Originally Posted by agnostic soldier
You also run the risk of spreading the flu. If we're going to cancel holidays because of covid, then we have to do the same thing with influenza. While there are over 56 million cases of covid worldwide, there are one billion cases of flu every year.
If people should cancel holidays and social gatherings because of covid then we should have been doing the same for decades because of the flu, especially because there are far more cases of the flu every year. The fact people only say this about covid when there are far more cases of other viruses says that it is just about fearmongering.
There would be fewer cases and deaths from flu if more people would take the vaccine. COVID-19 hospitalizations in the US have already exceeded typical flu numbers and the year is not over yet.
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Originally Posted by Wartrace
My family has agreed it isn't worth it this year. Mom is 87 years old and I fear someone might attend and pass on covid to her. Frankly I am not eager to get covid myself so staying away is probably the best option. We are having a "Zoom" Thanksgiving this year. BTW- not a fan of turkey meat anyways......
Try Cornish hens instead of turkey. That is what I will be doing. It will be just DH, one son, and me. The son works with us so he's in our bubble anyway. His wife and daughter are traveling.
The United States is having an explosion in cases this year with cases topping over 100k per day. Hospitals are being overran, and many states are running out of beds. Simply put, the virus is out of control. Now here is the issue for the Holiday season if people are determined to celebrate those Holidays with large families.
1) A massive increase in travel will expand the virus across the United States. As a result more states and areas will be infected.
2) Hospital beds are running out in many states, and the need to triage patients or deny treatment may be put into place.
3) Cold and flu season has started and will also spread along with the coronavirus. In 2019 alone, over 400k people were hospitalized from the flu. That means hundreds of thousands beds will not be available for COVID patients because they are treating people with the flu.
This is why the scientific community is warning people not to go out for the Holidays. It is to prevent the system from collapsing, not some deep state takeover.
An explosion you say?
Hmmmm. I wonder if there was any significant event two weeks ago that could have contributed to this explosion????
Try Cornish hens instead of turkey. That is what I will be doing. It will be just DH, one son, and me. The son works with us so he's in our bubble anyway. His wife and daughter are traveling.
I'm cooking a rib roast this year and sharing with my dogs Lucy & Hairyit. A bird doesn't "have" to be on the table for Thanksgiving.....
The anti Christ, will most likely be from the Middle East, there are to many people who hate Trump to get the whole world to follow him, and we don’t know the day or hour and even Jesus Himself said only the Father knows.
Not changing plans. Flying to my Thanksgiving vacation Saturday. Leaving laptop and unplugging from this non-sense. Mountains, Fishing , Beer, and skiing awaits me . I will let you know if I survived.
How dare you Jimmy. Don't you follow the science???
Personally I am staying put, but I'm choosing to do that. Freedom should always be the default here - not an out of control government.
How dare you Jimmy. Don't you follow the science???
Personally I am staying put, but I'm choosing to do that. Freedom should always be the default here - not an out of control government.
No government is out-of-control for trying to save the lives of its people. I'd say there are many things more important than the "freedom" to expose yourself and others to CoVid---it's more important to care about the welfare and well-being of your family especially the elderly and medically vulnerable. If you can celebrate Thanksgiving and Christmas at a farm or Lodge as someone on here wrote, great. But if you bring an extended family into a small apartment or house somewhere in a cold climate, I'd say the risk of the virus is too great. It says far more about the real spirit of thanksgiving and christmas to maybe forgo some celebrations, and save lives by doing so.
Did you miss the part about hospitals already being overrun? Let's see how well you like it when you need to go to the hospital for some other kind of emergency and at best, they stick you out in a hallway waiting 24-36 hours before a doctor sees you?
Neither were ever worth wasting time or money on for me. This year will be great for me. I can say no without getting the pouting and whining from people.
The United States is having an explosion in cases this year with cases topping over 100k per day. Hospitals are being overran, and many states are running out of beds. Simply put, the virus is out of control. Now here is the issue for the Holiday season if people are determined to celebrate those Holidays with large families.
1) A massive increase in travel will expand the virus across the United States. As a result more states and areas will be infected.
2) Hospital beds are running out in many states, and the need to triage patients or deny treatment may be put into place.
3) Cold and flu season has started and will also spread along with the coronavirus. In 2019 alone, over 400k people were hospitalized from the flu. That means hundreds of thousands beds will not be available for COVID patients because they are treating people with the flu.
This is why the scientific community is warning people not to go out for the Holidays. It is to prevent the system from collapsing, not some deep state takeover.
I'm glad you're staying home. But I'm gonna give you a big middle finger, and still travel to see relatives and friends.
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