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View Poll Results: Governor Ron DeSantis on COVID-19, wise or stupid?
wise 74 48.37%
stupid 79 51.63%
Voters: 153. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-19-2020, 02:09 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU3rUPvfZQs
(Nov 10)


Govenor Ron DeSantis seems to believe in a herd immunity approach for Florida


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

Nov 19, cases in Florida are
905,248

Deaths:
17,734

The population estimate is 21,477,737
So the cases are 4.2% of the population, this is miles away from herd immunity
which is estimated to be 70%. A vaccine can lead to herd immunity but that is not here yet, that seems to be 5 months away for the average person
However some researchers think 30-40% would drastically reduce the dynamic.
So if you apply 30% to the Florida population 21,477,737 x 30% it equals 6.4 million cases


7,925 new cases were reported in Florida on Nov. 18 and 87 new coronavirus deaths
That's about 1% death.
First, taking out the number of cases already recorded from that 6.4 million, - 905,248 (old cases)
we get 5,538,073, there would have to be about 5.5 million new cases to get to 30%
then apply the death rate and it's 60,796 more new deaths to get to 30%
or if herd immunity had to be 60% say, they are not sure, twice that 121,593 new deaths

This assumes hospitals could handle a much faster spread a much faster influx of new cases per day in a herd immunity scenario where hypothetically nobody wears a mask and there are no restrictions on businesses.

So my question is, is Governor Ron DeSantis wise or stupid?
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Old 11-19-2020, 02:19 PM
 
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Related:

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...y-hopes-falter

Lockdown U-turn in Sweden as COVID-19 cases soar and herd immunity hopes falter
The strict measures come after chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell conceded a first wave of coronavirus cases did not prevent a second

STOCKHOLM — Sweden, whose unorthodox pandemic strategy garnered global attention, has registered 15,084 new coronavirus cases since Friday, Health Agency statistics showed on Tuesday.

The number comes after Sweden hit a new daily record of 5,990 new cases last Friday, with the number of people testing positive rising by about 50 percent a week.

population, Sweden: 10.23 million (2019)
population, Florida: 21.4 million (2019 estimate, U.S. census)
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Old 11-19-2020, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I neither believe DeSantis' response wise nor stupid, only Constitutional.
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Old 11-19-2020, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I neither believe DeSantis' response wise nor stupid, only Constitutional.
And there is MUCH to be said about being "Constitutional", sadly I am governed by UnConstitutional Kelly, or at least she tries to govern me and the many, many Kansans that oppose her.

We can't keep locking down. While restrictions on our rights and freedoms worked in the beginning when we didn't know what we were dealing with, it isn't really working anymore.
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Old 11-19-2020, 04:16 PM
 
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I neither believe DeSantis' response wise nor stupid, only Constitutional.
There's nothing constitutional about endangering the lives of millions so that a minority can not be inconvenienced. So if that's the case any declared State of Emergency going forward involves optional participation? If not, you're a hypocrite.
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Old 11-19-2020, 05:04 PM
 
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There's nothing constitutional about endangering the lives of millions so that a minority can not be inconvenienced. So if that's the case any declared State of Emergency going forward involves optional participation? If not, you're a hypocrite.
Fun fact, even with a vaccine, the “danger” from Covid 19 will always be there
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Old 11-19-2020, 05:05 PM
 
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Fun fact, even with a vaccine, the “danger” from Covid 19 will always be there
I agree, but there is no point in courting an early death.
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Old 11-19-2020, 05:09 PM
 
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Herd immunity is all there is. That is even the purpose of a broadly distributed vaccine.

There is nothing else.

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Old 11-19-2020, 05:10 PM
 
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Let it rip. I support deSantis.
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Old 11-19-2020, 05:29 PM
 
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Who died and appointed him the smart one in the group? If that’s the best Florida has they are what I always have said, it’s Deliverance playing out in the real world.
You're free to be locked down like a rat in your state. Stay away from Florida, while we enjoy our freedom.
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