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Old 11-25-2020, 03:46 PM
 
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Interesting but if people view Steve Gates solely as a computer engineer then that says more about themselves.

You might want to read up on what he's been working on and helping with the country over the past couple decades.

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If there’s anyone who’s an expert on pandemics, it’s a computer engineer.

 
Old 11-25-2020, 03:47 PM
 
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And I wonder how many fools thought it was a joke.

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and i wonder how many fools didnt get the joke...
 
Old 11-25-2020, 03:54 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Enough of Trump stopped travel from China. He didn’t fully stop travel, there were people still flying in from China. This also has been debunked as making any impact.

The pandemic hit a surge when trump closed off European travel without a plan. He gave a few days for people to get home from Europe before flights would stop. Panicked Americans flew home to crowded airports, no screening, no distancing.

This would have never happened under Biden. Trump’s failed to plan and communicate to the American people.

We could be in such a different place right now with real leadership.
wait, what? so now we can say this wouldnt have happened with biden?

he would have flown around like super man and punched the virus, like how he wanted to take trump behind the gym? lmfaoooo
 
Old 11-25-2020, 03:57 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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You’re welcome. The damage they’ve done by voting the way they did may prove insurmountable. And the HATRED they have for anyone who disagrees with them is nauseating. (You should have seen the rep I just got.)
sorry, people are dxcxs
 
Old 11-25-2020, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Might have been worse.

Might have been better.

Might have been the same.

Only thing certain is response would have been different.

China closed the Wuhan airport and restricted ground exits on 1/23.
The US began restricting entry from all of China on 1/30.

About 400,000 people entered the US from China during the gap. The US made no effort to contract trace.

Despite the restriction, US expats, those visiting families and students from China continued to be admitted. No effort was made at contact tracing.

We all watched what was going on in Italy and other hot spots in Europe and assumed it could not happen here.
Millions arrived from hot spots in Europe in the weeks before travel was restricted. Best I can tell, no effort was made to contact trace.

We can recall the surge of inbound humanity that was subjected to being packed like sardines for hours in major US airports while a very inadequate number of CDC staffers attempted to screen them. There is no question, these processes became massive super spreader events. No effort was made to contact trace.

Had Biden been POTUS, it’s far more likely the admin would have spoken with a common voice.
Very unlikely anyone would have gone down the hydroxychloroquine rabbit hole.

More likely, the Admin would have made faster and better use of the Defense Act. Less likely, the Admin would have created a bidding war for respirators and PPE among states and FNMA and in the process bid up the price.

Would Biden have predicted Covid would go away in April, then May, then June? Who knows?

Regardless of who sat the oval, Congress would have approved massive funding to expedite vaccines.

And as we have seen, the first vaccine did not use any federal funding.

Regardless of who sat the oval, Covid was going to spread. People would resist protecting others by masking up and distancing.

No clue how a different admin would have approached travel over Thanksgiving. We have the CDC advising people to stay home. On the other hand, airports are open and carriers have added flights to accommodate passenger demand. Peak travel will occur this coming Sunday. And Covid will spread.

At some future date, there will be endless domestic and global post mortem evaluations to determine what actions were effective vs not.
Obama and Biden did a lousy job and never stopped the planes coming from Mexico where the infections were high. This is why we got so infected. If the HINI was as bad as covid we would have had millions dead under Obama and Biden. So face that fact.
 
Old 11-25-2020, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
Might have been worse.

Might have been better.

Might have been the same.

Only thing certain is response would have been different.

China closed the Wuhan airport and restricted ground exits on 1/23.
The US began restricting entry from all of China on 1/30.

About 400,000 people entered the US from China during the gap. The US made no effort to contract trace.

Despite the restriction, US expats, those visiting families and students from China continued to be admitted. No effort was made at contact tracing.

We all watched what was going on in Italy and other hot spots in Europe and assumed it could not happen here.
Millions arrived from hot spots in Europe in the weeks before travel was restricted. Best I can tell, no effort was made to contact trace.

We can recall the surge of inbound humanity that was subjected to being packed like sardines for hours in major US airports while a very inadequate number of CDC staffers attempted to screen them. There is no question, these processes became massive super spreader events. No effort was made to contact trace.

Had Biden been POTUS, it’s far more likely the admin would have spoken with a common voice.
Very unlikely anyone would have gone down the hydroxychloroquine rabbit hole.

More likely, the Admin would have made faster and better use of the Defense Act. Less likely, the Admin would have created a bidding war for respirators and PPE among states and FNMA and in the process bid up the price.

Would Biden have predicted Covid would go away in April, then May, then June? Who knows?

Regardless of who sat the oval, Congress would have approved massive funding to expedite vaccines.

And as we have seen, the first vaccine did not use any federal funding.

Regardless of who sat the oval, Covid was going to spread. People would resist protecting others by masking up and distancing.

No clue how a different admin would have approached travel over Thanksgiving. We have the CDC advising people to stay home. On the other hand, airports are open and carriers have added flights to accommodate passenger demand. Peak travel will occur this coming Sunday. And Covid will spread.

At some future date, there will be endless domestic and global post mortem evaluations to determine what actions were effective vs not.
Obama and Biden did a lousy job and never stopped the planes coming from Mexico where the H1N1 infections were high. This is why we got so infected. If the HINI was as bad as covid we would have had millions dead under Obama and Biden. So face that fact.
 
Old 11-25-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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wait, what? so now we can say this wouldnt have happened with biden?

he would have flown around like super man and punched the virus, like how he wanted to take trump behind the gym? lmfaoooo
He would have sent Corn Pop and his bad boys to beat it down.
 
Old 11-25-2020, 04:42 PM
 
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Would have been worse under Biden, and with no vaccine in sight. I can’t believe that the media was successful in blaming this on Trump, and using the issue to get him out of office. You can stop peddling the lie now....you won (sorta).

Thank G-d Trump was at the helm this year, when the Chinese government unleashed their virus on the world.
This is based on a hypothetical “if Biden was already president before 2020.”

He wasn’t. This was Trump’s watch. We can debate all day about what job he did.

Sure, people tool to the streets on their own to protest, and even to celebrate. People will do dumb thins.

But a leader, decided to have his followers come to crowded events that PLANNED AND HE SET UP.

That shows how much of a priority the pandemic was to him. It’s especially funny that the the right was bragging about the number of rally attendees.
 
Old 11-25-2020, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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8 pm Pacific.

2,203 deaths so far today. Most since May 6th.

Happy Covidgiving everyone.

 
Old 11-25-2020, 09:01 PM
 
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8 pm Pacific.

2,203 deaths so far today. Most since May 6th.

Happy Covidgiving everyone.



Whoda thunk it? Millions of idiots travelling (Ignoring common sense and medical professionals) and groping each other like a mound of puppies fighting for milk at the teet then bringing it home to at risk people. This is going to get UGLY. We're going to have a few million deaths by the end of this thing.
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