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Yeah, but the Democrat was anti-amnesty, pro second amendment, and prol-life. Not your typical Democrat in todays world. Other then that I read on a few forums that the Republican running for the seat was considered corrupt ...
I've always voted Democrat, but I do not plan to this time. I am totally disillusioned about their ability to actually get anything done. Democrats are education advocates, we spend a tremendous amount on k-12 schools and fail ([SIZE=2][SIZE=2]National Center for Education Statistics 2003/04 school year $8310 average per student/per year) [/SIZE][/SIZE] we spend quite a bit on minority programs, the blacks are doing worse in more ways then not. Is all we hear is that these need more funding, it seems to me that if we can't provide an excellent education on $8310 per year, when private education is on average about half that, then its not effective.
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Closer to home, the Democrats just took a long time, 30 year, Republican Congressional seat in Louisiana in a special election.
I am very happy that the British have woken up!!! I guess they got tired of being overrun by terrorist suspects, crime, useless social programs and sexual degenerates. Now hopefully, the US will follow suit!
Even the Conservative party in the UK favors "useless social programs". The average Conservative in the UK is closer to John McCain or Joe Lieberman than Ronald Reagan. Margaret Thatcher was a bit of an abberation.
in case you haven't watched the BBC lately the newly elected Mayor is a lunatic ex talk show host who lied about an affair as a publicity stunt and said he was fit for office because he's been sober for 3 months. Think more of Jerry Springer instead. By the way Conservatives in the UK would be middle of the road here except for the Thatcher types on defense.
Conservative are always some lunituic to liberals. But then now days even another liberal is evil;witness clinton verus obama.But I agree that the democratic primary has all the characteristics of the jerry spring show. Hillary;Bill;Obama and wright.
Even the Conservative party in the UK favors "useless social programs". The average Conservative in the UK is closer to John McCain or Joe Lieberman than Ronald Reagan. Margaret Thatcher was a bit of an abberation.
Actualy I's say European Conservatives are much closer to the political philosophy of Bill Clinton -- fiscal conservative, social liberal, moderate military philosophy, and not preoccupied with everyone else's sex life.
Actualy I's say European Conservatives are much closer to the political philosophy of Bill Clinton -- fiscal conservative, social liberal, moderate military philosophy, and not preoccupied with everyone else's sex life.
Bill Clinton would be a Conservative MP in Britain for sure now days, that or a "New Labor" type. McCain or Lieberman would be close except for their strong support of military intervention in Iraq. Conservatives weren't always doves, though. They supported the Falklands war which was a war of dubious merit, sort of like Grenada for the US. Sort of a last hurrah for the British empire.
Are you saying that the people of the Falklands and Grenada should have been allowed to be conquered by governments they didn't choose? Just think of the millions who would have lived had France and England stopped Hitler when he invaded the Sudetenland.
Those who fail to understand history are condemning us to new holocausts and just don't think its radical Muslems at the wrong end of the gun.
Yeah, but the Democrat was anti-amnesty, pro second amendment, and prol-life. Not your typical Democrat in todays world. Other then that I read on a few forums that the Republican running for the seat was considered corrupt ...
The Democratic Party isn't as doctrinaire as the Republicans. Most importantly this will be a Democratic Caucus vote extending the party's lead in Congress.
Conservative policies have had reign in the USA since the late 1970s- I find it rather amusing that considering the current problems we have will likely linger far longer then many suspect- especially from what the Wall Street fascists and Ben 'helicopter' Bernanke try to tell us.
Remember this also- Great Britain has had nationalized health care since 1946- 'conservative' here and there are two entirely different animals.
The conservatives in the USA over the last 30 years have acomplished the following;
1. redistributed wealth from the poor and middle class to the upper 5-10%, corporations and CEOs.
2. The rate of pay for the average worker to a CEO has increased to the point where a CEO makes in one day what an average worker makes in over a year.
3. Pension benefits have been eliminated and shifted to risky 401 stock and mutual plans
4. Job security is practically non existent compared to even 20 years ago..
5. Health care costs have soared- producing nearly 50 million Americans without health care access that is affordable- and another 50 million with inadequate insurance.
It seems that many Americans have had it up to their chins with what the conervatives have done- shift the wealth and economic security to the rich and corporations.
Perhaps that is why either Democrat holds a large lead over Mc Cain.
The GOP always has represented the privileged class- and their policies over the past 30 years have become impossible for many Americans to bear. Reform is needed- and Progressives have always come to the forefront when the masses become unhappy. What the corporations and conservatives have accomplished are making Karl Marx smile in is grave.
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Conservative policies have had reign in the USA since the late 1970s- I find it rather amusing that considering the current problems we have will likely linger far longer then many suspect- especially from what the Wall Street fascists and Ben 'helicopter' Bernanke try to tell us.
Remember this also- Great Britain has had nationalized health care since 1946- 'conservative' here and there are two entirely different animals.
The conservatives in the USA over the last 30 years have acomplished the following;
1. redistributed wealth from the poor and middle class to the upper 5-10%, corporations and CEOs.
2. The rate of pay for the average worker to a CEO has increased to the point where a CEO makes in one day what an average worker makes in over a year.
3. Pension benefits have been eliminated and shifted to risky 401 stock and mutual plans
4. Job security is practically non existent compared to even 20 years ago..
5. Health care costs have soared- producing nearly 50 million Americans without health care access that is affordable- and another 50 million with inadequate insurance.
It seems that many Americans have had it up to their chins with what the conervatives have done- shift the wealth and economic security to the rich and corporations.
Perhaps that is why either Democrat holds a large lead over Mc Cain.
The GOP always has represented the privileged class- and their policies over the past 30 years have become impossible for many Americans to bear. Reform is needed- and Progressives have always come to the forefront when the masses become unhappy. What the corporations and conservatives have accomplished are making Karl Marx smile in is grave.
Interesting summary Sky, and I suspect that many of these sentiments will be among the talking points of the eventual Democratic nominee.
The concentration of wealth among fewer folks will probably resonate fairly well, but I don't know that the pension issue will get much traction, beyond the argument to continue Social Security as currently structured (kind of a smaller version of the old "defined benefit" pension plans.
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