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Old 12-03-2020, 12:28 PM
 
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Mexico is not a world leader of significance? Last I recall, he has not congratulated Biden either.

Oh but China, Biden's favorite and number one enemy of the US, was probably among the first, because they know what a lapdog Biden will be.




There was no election interference. Some facebook posts and tweets is not interfering in an election.



Does not make any sense. In any case, every president has licked the boots of Saudi's dictators, so everything else pales in comparison.




No proof of that at all, one source only, even our own intel agencies gave to credence to it.



Last I recall, Russia has permission to be there, the US does not, the US, once again lol, is illegally invading and occupying a country. And what you expect Trump to do, nuke them or something?




I fail to see how you come to the conclusion Putin (a person you obviously know nothing about) likes Trump in any manner. Trump did about opposite of anything to favor Russia. Trump did not ease sanctions, sent defensive weapons and training to Ukraine, sent and maintained troops in Syria, has refused to oppose the Turkish invasion of Syria, has provided material support to anti-Assad terrorists, increased the military presence in the Black Sea, etc, etc.

It is obvious you have not been paying attention to global events over the last few years.

And yet some still like to peddle old fairy-tales, over and over again.

Trump is guilty, apparently, that he even DARED to think about establishing good relations with Russia.
How dare! quarter him now for this reason alone.
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Old 12-03-2020, 12:28 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Putin is smart - it's true, however his "love for his country" comes for a price.

First and utmost, he loves that his country provides him lavishly ( him, his minions and "new Russians" in general,) at the expense of the rest of population.

And so that this "rest of population" wouldn't concentrate on this matter too much, he loves present himself as "one of the people," and to constantly stir patriotic sentiment in Russians, reminding them of the "Great Patriotic War" of 1941-1945. ( Piskarevskoe Memorial Cemetery is part of it.)



But if to speak of Russians overall, they definitely feel for Trump, and for all the good reasons.

Number one - they know that Democrats are particularly hateful towards Russia and China Joe is going to carry on this hatred.
And number two - being conservative culture, they see all the insanity of "gender reveal" parties that take place in US, and look at Republicans as more sane and reasonable part of American population.


And we should believe anything from a 'culture' that allows the poisoning of dissenters to go unpunished because WHY?
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Old 12-03-2020, 12:32 PM
 
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... Putin is smart and loves his country. He's got nothing to loose by playing this game. You can see how much he loves Russia by the dignity he shows towards his veterans, not afraid to be seen crying at Piskaryovskoye Memorial Cemetery and the zeal with which he sings the Russian Anthem.
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What a stark contrast to the current POS in the white house.
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Old 12-03-2020, 12:34 PM
 
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There was no proof that Russia interfered and you know it. ...
Plenty of evidence, and 26 indictments to go along with it.

Very Trumpian of you to stick up for that ruthless monster who undermined the democracy in his own country. Then attacked European democracies, then attacked ours.
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Old 12-03-2020, 12:36 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What a stark contrast to the current POS in the white house.

Well, in fairness, Putin does have the edge in being able to poison his detractors and go unpunished.
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Old 12-03-2020, 12:42 PM
 
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And we should believe anything from a 'culture' that allows the poisoning of dissenters to go unpunished because WHY?

It depends what kind of "dissenters" they are.

If it's former KGB agents, the reasons are obvious.
But if it's some obscure politicians that US are trying to use in Russia for their own political gains, ( and who, because of that, represent no political danger whatsoever to someone like Putin,) then it becomes very questionable who'd REALLY poison them, particularly when they have a lot of murky people ( from business world,) including, that surround them.

That's number one.

And number two - no, Americans don't have to "trust Russian culture" or Russia in general for this matter, but then, again, they should NOT interfere in internal Russian affairs, trying to fish in the muddy waters and use it for their own advantage.

Then, whatever is going wrong with the bigger picture, it would be totally on Russia, and then, ONLY THEN you can point at Russia as the "source of all evil in the world."
But until then - sorry.
Americans don't have clean hands either, and "corporate Democrats" of Clinton/Biden type in particular.

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Old 12-03-2020, 12:50 PM
 
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What a stark contrast to the current POS in the white house.

In your head only.
If you don't share the vision that Trump has for America, that doesn't mean that he doesn't love his country.

In my opinion he certainly does, and plenty of Americans ( who happen to agree with him) support him for these reasons.

Take this from a very left-minded person like myself.
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Old 12-03-2020, 12:51 PM
 
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Because there is NO president elect.

It's disgusting how few people remember US election process.

Read up people. C'mon already. Grab a clue. Anywhere.
Actually there is and it's nothing new.
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Old 12-03-2020, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You snowflakes love to harp on that. Nothing was proven.
Yet. The Mueller Report will be released in full and unredacted in a couple of months, and we can all see what Barr was trying to hide.
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Old 12-03-2020, 01:19 PM
 
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Who cares?

Russia is in steep decline. They’re insignificant. The future is elsewhere.
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