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Increase in drug overdose was the (cause) reason the CDC gave for the life expectancy last 3 year decline; good to know they lied about that.
Life Expectancy from Birth has decreased to to violence and drugs.
Life Expectancy from Age 65 has increased, due to better medical technology.
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell
And what does other countries have to do with the situation(s) in the u.s. and the op?
You flounced.
Name another country that has a Baltimore or Chicago or Cincinnati or Louisville or St Louis where people are shot and killed on a regular basis.
Name another country where 6.2% of population commits 54.9% of murders.
You know, if we deported all Black males from the US, Life Expectancy from Birth would increase dramatically.
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell
A person's whose life was cut short by big pharma and their technical advances, which has absolutely nothing to do with poverty, but for those who can afford it --- their perspective on how much life is better now, than it was 100 years ago, I'm sure is well, is different from those that have not been effected by it.
It's not "big pharma's" fault.
If you were informed, you'd know that hospitals conducted surveys and found a direct correlation between satisfaction and pain level.
Patients who suffered little to no pain while in hospital rated the hospital highly. Patients who suffered pain rated the hospital poorly.
That's because a large segment of society lives under the misguided belief that people should not have to live in pain and doctors and hospitals should fix everything.
Hospitals pressured pharmaceutical companies to find a solution and they did.
The fact that people liked how the felt on Oxycodone and then lied to their doctors about being in pain to get as much Oxy as they wanted is not the fault of pharmaceutical companies.
If you were informed, then you'd know that the federal poverty level is the weighted average of the 48 contiguous States (Alaska and Hawai'i are omitted as statistical outliers).
The Census Bureau calculates the poverty levels of the 48 contiguous States.
Then the Census Bureau uses the X-13ARIMA-SEATS software program (which you can download for free from the Census Bureau website) to weight the poverty levels.
Then it takes the average.
The federal poverty level is valid if, and only if, the US would be like Iceland and have a population of 379,000 and a uniform Cost-of-Living.
Sadly, the US is not like Iceland.
If you want to understand the poverty levels in the 48 contiguous States, then might I suggest the HUD website.
Let's say you and I apply for HUD Section 8 housing benefits so that tax-payers will subsidize our rent.
You get $1,401/month in Social Security benefits.
I get a Social Security benefit of $2,788/month, plus a pension of $1,878/month, for a total of $4,666/month.
HUD denies your claim for Section 8 benefits on the basis that you earn way too much freaking money.
HUD approves my claim for Section 8 benefits because I don't earn enough money.
Let us review again: $1,401 is too much money, while $4,666 is not enough money.
We can quantify those extremes in terms of wage rates:
$26.92/hour - $6.93/hour = $19.99/hour
That is how widely the Cost-of-Living varies across America.
As you can see, those persons making the federal minimum wage where the State poverty level is $6.93/hour are being over-compensated.
At the same time, the federal minimum wage is a nothing-burger for those where the State poverty level is $26.92/hour.
"The really dangerous American fascist... is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power."
Sounds exactly like google, twitter, youtube, facebook, etc., and their selective and one-sided censoring. Think very carefully about that...
No that sounds like all corporate and banking lobbyists.
Life Expectancy from Birth has decreased to to violence and drugs.
Life Expectancy from Age 65 has increased, due to better medical technology.
You flounced.
Name another country that has a Baltimore or Chicago or Cincinnati or Louisville or St Louis where people are shot and killed on a regular basis.
Name another country where 6.2% of population commits 54.9% of murders.
You know, if we deported all Black males from the US, Life Expectancy from Birth would increase dramatically.
It's not "big pharma's" fault.
If you were informed, you'd know that hospitals conducted surveys and found a direct correlation between satisfaction and pain level.
Patients who suffered little to no pain while in hospital rated the hospital highly. Patients who suffered pain rated the hospital poorly.
That's because a large segment of society lives under the misguided belief that people should not have to live in pain and doctors and hospitals should fix everything.
Hospitals pressured pharmaceutical companies to find a solution and they did.
The fact that people liked how the felt on Oxycodone and then lied to their doctors about being in pain to get as much Oxy as they wanted is not the fault of pharmaceutical companies.
That's a demonstrably false statement.
If you were informed, then you'd know that the federal poverty level is the weighted average of the 48 contiguous States (Alaska and Hawai'i are omitted as statistical outliers).
The Census Bureau calculates the poverty levels of the 48 contiguous States.
Then the Census Bureau uses the X-13ARIMA-SEATS software program (which you can download for free from the Census Bureau website) to weight the poverty levels.
Then it takes the average.
The federal poverty level is valid if, and only if, the US would be like Iceland and have a population of 379,000 and a uniform Cost-of-Living.
Sadly, the US is not like Iceland.
If you want to understand the poverty levels in the 48 contiguous States, then might I suggest the HUD website.
Let's say you and I apply for HUD Section 8 housing benefits so that tax-payers will subsidize our rent.
You get $1,401/month in Social Security benefits.
I get a Social Security benefit of $2,788/month, plus a pension of $1,878/month, for a total of $4,666/month.
HUD denies your claim for Section 8 benefits on the basis that you earn way too much freaking money.
HUD approves my claim for Section 8 benefits because I don't earn enough money.
Let us review again: $1,401 is too much money, while $4,666 is not enough money.
We can quantify those extremes in terms of wage rates:
$26.92/hour - $6.93/hour = $19.99/hour
That is how widely the Cost-of-Living varies across America.
As you can see, those persons making the federal minimum wage where the State poverty level is $6.93/hour are being over-compensated.
At the same time, the federal minimum wage is a nothing-burger for those where the State poverty level is $26.92/hour.
But, hey, one-size-fits-all works, right?
If you're going to be stickler for facts then stop using that trash stat of 6.2% of the population commits the murder. That's another goose stepping lie Conservatives love to trot out. .005% of the population commits those crimes.
Would it make sense to say 50% of the population commits 90% of murders? No bc that would be s stupidly misleading stat. So stop trying to pass out off as legitimate math when you're talking about Black people.
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Life Expectancy from Birth has decreased to to violence and drugs.
Life Expectancy from Age 65 has increased, due to better medical technology.
You flounced.
Name another country that has a Baltimore or Chicago or Cincinnati or Louisville or St Louis where people are shot and killed on a regular basis.
Name another country where 6.2% of population commits 54.9% of murders.
You know, if we deported all Black males from the US, Life Expectancy from Birth would increase dramatically.
It's not "big pharma's" fault.
If you were informed, you'd know that hospitals conducted surveys and found a direct correlation between satisfaction and pain level.
Patients who suffered little to no pain while in hospital rated the hospital highly. Patients who suffered pain rated the hospital poorly.
That's because a large segment of society lives under the misguided belief that people should not have to live in pain and doctors and hospitals should fix everything.
Hospitals pressured pharmaceutical companies to find a solution and they did.
The fact that people liked how the felt on Oxycodone and then lied to their doctors about being in pain to get as much Oxy as they wanted is not the fault of pharmaceutical companies.
That's a demonstrably false statement.
If you were informed, then you'd know that the federal poverty level is the weighted average of the 48 contiguous States (Alaska and Hawai'i are omitted as statistical outliers).
The Census Bureau calculates the poverty levels of the 48 contiguous States.
Then the Census Bureau uses the X-13ARIMA-SEATS software program (which you can download for free from the Census Bureau website) to weight the poverty levels.
Then it takes the average.
The federal poverty level is valid if, and only if, the US would be like Iceland and have a population of 379,000 and a uniform Cost-of-Living.
Sadly, the US is not like Iceland.
If you want to understand the poverty levels in the 48 contiguous States, then might I suggest the HUD website.
Let's say you and I apply for HUD Section 8 housing benefits so that tax-payers will subsidize our rent.
You get $1,401/month in Social Security benefits.
I get a Social Security benefit of $2,788/month, plus a pension of $1,878/month, for a total of $4,666/month.
HUD denies your claim for Section 8 benefits on the basis that you earn way too much freaking money.
HUD approves my claim for Section 8 benefits because I don't earn enough money.
Let us review again: $1,401 is too much money, while $4,666 is not enough money.
We can quantify those extremes in terms of wage rates:
$26.92/hour - $6.93/hour = $19.99/hour
That is how widely the Cost-of-Living varies across America.
As you can see, those persons making the federal minimum wage where the State poverty level is $6.93/hour are being over-compensated.
At the same time, the federal minimum wage is a nothing-burger for those where the State poverty level is $26.92/hour.
But, hey, one-size-fits-all works, right?
The so-called poverty is simply an arbitrary line. It’s not a reflection of the reality.
In reality, there is no poverty in USA and people choose to stay poor.
the first statement is hard to understand. Could you please clarify?
the second is quite true in a perfect economy. If on were "paid by the piece", and that piece became $0.30 more valuable through their efforts, then they should be paid a large portion of $0.30. All of it? Doubtful. But probably a majority.
It really is as simple as the Econ 101 "Widget Factory" though. At least for discussion purposes.
Thst point is in reply to another poster claiming tax policy benefits from income inequality bc the govt collects more money from the higher brackets...
This poster also doesn't understand what ss is our how it works.
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Originally Posted by lifeexplorer
A decent wage is determined by the parties involved in a transaction, not by you or any other dictators.
If the workers don’t think the wage offered is decent, they don’t have to accept it.
Or you can open your own company and offer whatever wage you feel as decent.
It’s called freedom.
It's called exploitation. And unless you're willing to go the full length of this "two parties consent" philosophy to say child sex rings should be legal if the child agrees, then you already concede there are limits to any terms that can morally agreed to between parties.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Low-income workers would be earning better wages if there wasn't such a glut of them. Supply and demand. Focus your efforts on what can be done to reduce the glut of no/low-skill workers in the US.
Supply and demand is what allowed Roman general Crassus to buy burning homes for a fraction of their worth bc he had the only firefighters on Rome. Unchecked supply & demand is exploitive, and laws are made to check that exploitation. The floor of people who can work low wage jobs is immaterial to the fact that those jobs generate revenue and profits for the business.
Open your eyes. Why in the hell are people so resistant to the truth? /smh
Cite your source that says 27% of people don't pay payroll tax. There are very few exemptions to fica and Medicare, and those exemptions do not add up to 27% employees.
Your ENTIRE point about the benefits of wage inequality are completely debunked by the existence of the wage cap on ss. Stu unless you're ready to explain how not collecting money that you could have collected from someone else is making more money for the govt, you're wrong.
The so-called poverty is simply an arbitrary line. It’s not a reflection of the reality.
In reality, there is no poverty in USA and people choose to stay poor.
Wow what a fantasy world where everybody can be CEO Indian Chief. It doesnt work that way, capitalism REQUIRES a poor class working for crumbs so a tiny percent can be super rich. Capitalists beyond some small shop keeper doesnt do their own labor, they hire it out. Those that work for others crumbs dont get rich. Getting rich is combination of LUCK and ability to get others to work for crumbs. Maybe like Trump try to screw them over and dont pay them. Getting rich is mostly gambling with borrowed money and being at right place at the right time. Work for others and you dont get rich, at best you live comfortable middle class life and that isnt guaranteed if they can import cheap educated labor from India or some place. People that will work ever CHEAPER. Again corrupt govt that allows this.
The only reason we have or rather HAD a large middle class was all those FDR "socialist" reigning in of the unfettered beast economy from the Gilded Age. Cause as much as capitalists make claims, ONLY the early stages of capitalism in any industry where there is a flat playing field and lot competitors does it work well. Once some companies get bigger marketing share, they do their dirty tricks to turn that into a oligopoly or monopoly. More profit with less work, cause they no longer have to compete with anybody. An unregulated capitalist economy will ALWAYS degenerate into one monopolistic monkey owning all the bananas. Look at the simplified capitalist game by Parker Bros called Monopoly. The whole goal of the game is to bankrupt all the other players and end up owning everything. Unregulated capitalism works same way, just in a maybe slightly more complex way. Buying govt, etc and regulating out any potential competition.
The only way to make capitalism productive is for independent govt to regulate to maintain competition and break up wanna be monopolies before they get significant national political power. Once they get power, they corrupt govt and steer it to benefit their interests.
Thst point is in reply to another poster claiming tax policy benefits from income inequality bc the govt collects more money from the higher brackets...
This poster also doesn't understand what ss is our how it works.
It's called exploitation. And unless you're willing to go the full length of this "two parties consent" philosophy to say child sex rings should be legal if the child agrees, then you already concede there are limits to any terms that can morally agreed to between parties.
Supply and demand is what allowed Roman general Crassus to buy burning homes for a fraction of their worth bc he had the only firefighters on Rome. Unchecked supply & demand is exploitive, and laws are made to check that exploitation. The floor of people who can work low wage jobs is immaterial to the fact that those jobs generate revenue and profits for the business.
Dude, what’s the matter with you? We are taking about consenting adults. Children have no way to consent.
According to your screwed up logic, every sexual encounter is exploitation.
If you feel so exploited, why do you buy all kinds of crap from the evil rich people? Why are you spending time on the internet feeding the rich people?
Wow what a fantasy world where everybody can be CEO Indian Chief. It doesnt work that way, capitalism REQUIRES a poor class working for crumbs so a tiny percent can be super rich. Capitalists beyond some small shop keeper doesnt do their own labor, they hire it out. The only reason we have or rather HAD a large middle class was all those FDR "socialist" reigning in of the unfettered beast economy from the Gilded Age. Cause as much as capitalists make claims, ONLY the early stages of capitalism in any industry where there is a flat playing field and lot competitors does it work well. Once some companies get bigger marketing share, they do their dirty tricks to turn that into a oligopoly or monopoly. More profit with less work, cause they no longer have to compete with anybody. An unregulated capitalist economy will ALWAYS degenerate into one monopolistic monkey owning all the bananas. Look at the simplified capitalist game by Parker Bros called Monopoly. The whole goal of the game is to bankrupt all the other players and end up owning everything. Unregulated capitalism works same way, just in a maybe slightly more complex way. Buying govt, etc and regulating out any potential competition.
The only way to make capitalism productive is for independent govt to regulate to maintain competition and break up wanna be monopolies before they get significant national political power. Once they get power, they corrupt govt and steer it to benefit their interests.
This is so anti science and anti reality.
You can’t squeeze blood out of stones. Poor class has no money. You can’t suck them drier.
In the real world, capitalism is win-win. You wouldn’t trade with others if you aren’t getting more value than the labor, goods, or money you are parting with.
Read this again because this is the whole point of capitalism. Read it a hundred times until it sinks in.
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